Christianity http://oddbooks.com/ en Chemistianity http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/chemistianity <span>Chemistianity</span> <span><span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span></span> <span>16 Jun 2019 - 18:00</span> <div class="oddbook__field-author d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Author(s)<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">J Carrington Sellars, F C S</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-publisher d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Publisher<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">The Author</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-pubdate d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Edition / Year<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">1873</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-file-under d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> File under<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__items"> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/christianity" hreflang="en">Christianity</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/chemistry" hreflang="en">chemistry</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/poetry" hreflang="en">poetry</a></span> </div> </div> <div class="oddbook__taxonomy-vocabulary-1 d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> In the section labelled<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/category/odd-books/rancid-rhymes" hreflang="en">Rancid Rhymes</a></div> </div> <div class="oddbook__body"><blockquote> <p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/chemistianity.jpg"><img alt="" src="/sites/default/files/files/chemistianity.jpg" data-entity-uuid="93802d4b-accf-4ca3-a6b8-5f9870bc3868" data-entity-type="file" width="250px" height="394px" class="align-right" /></a> Dear Friends, I step forward, to hand you my brief work, With native diffidence and humility; Late Formality is a smiling sick man Mete-ing out Vanity to blind true feeling, I have not the measure, therefore extend My two hands to you as warm friend to friend. My aim in Work was verse narrational  On each known Element term’d Chemical; Such bodies compose in God-govern’d Rule The Earth, the Sun, and each Matter Nodule That, life-like, wisely move in Sea of Space For man’s learning in God’s eternal grace: As these bodies compound our Spirit’s Frame We should know them well by sight, rule, and name. In that we can exert force Chemical So we only, of all life Animal, In that are like to the Primal Causer, The infinite Motioner of Matter. Wide would I spread, were it my privilege, Religion, Chemistry, and Trade Knowledge, Coupling with those first studies - Elocution, Four essentials for a Life of Progression. Permit me now to give the author’s sum Of this my first book p’rhaps ultimatum. I trust you Jury, though all will not agree, You’ll pass a verdict that will favour me. The title I chose is CHEMISTIANITY . Or, Proofs of Chemist’s love FOR all Humanity; God-love in Christ - CHRISTIANITY Is TO - in and through - Humanity, Two unequal friends walking, gifting, o’er the Earth, One Basic Merit, the other, Incomparable Worth.  Chemistry’s the Science of all science, To disciples firsthand God evidence.</p> </blockquote> <p>Thus, in some of the worst doggerel ever committed to print, J Carrington Sellars attempts to justify the publication of this quaint volume, with which he hoped to bring a wider public to an understanding of Chemistry. As his enthusiasm for Chemistry was reinforced by the belief that it served to demonstrate God's love in the world, he further hoped to promote Christian faith at the same time, hence the portmanteau title of "Chemistianity".</p> <p>Sellars' method for teaching Chemistry is through "oratorical verses" which the reader is expected to recite out loud in order to help commit their subject matter to memory. While this kind of approach may be fruitful if the lines are rhythmic and catchy, I doubt that it does when the student is presented with blank verse of such dreariness as is found here.</p> <blockquote> <p>RHODIUM, Platinum’s natural ally, A metal of almost silver-white hue, Is hard to fuse yet very mall’able; Insoluble per se in all Acids, Though Aqua Regia dissolves its alloys. Its Sesquioxide solution is rose colour’d. Rhodium Trioxide is a blue powder. Rhodium forms double Salts with Chlorine Plus Potassium; efflorescent prisms. Rhodium alloys with most metals but not Merc’ry; Rhodium in powder, heated in Air, oxides. Rhodium is found with Platinum Ores In a native alloyed metallic state In Brazil, Ceylon, and other countries. Metallic Rhodium is best obtained, From prepared Sodium Chloro-rhodiate, By reducing under Hydrogen, and washing. Rhodium is used, in alloy with Platinum, By Chemical factors for Stills and Pans ; Also, by Chemists for furnace vessels. Steel alloyed With a trace of Rhodium, For some purposes is valuable. Pens tipped with Rhodium are durable.</p> </blockquote> <p>This is one of the shorter examples. Compelling stuff, eh?</p> <p>Sellars, like many self-publishers,could not resist overdoing it. As well as a "Procoemium" - a word so obscure that even Google cannot find a meaning for it, but in this case referring to a preface - from which the first verse extract above comes, he also includes a lengthy prologue in which he speculates on various inventions that might be possible with the aid of Chemistry, including the foldable plastic mac, which he anticipates by about 50 years:</p> <blockquote> <p>Compose a pocket transparent waterproof, A light Glosser to pack under dress leaf, Its expanded figure like bishop or cloak, Of pliant drapery, not eas’ly charr’d, To fully protect ladies’ dressful charms From promiscuous home and tempest harms. ’Twould aid to prove what our standard women are, Home-brilliants of choicest Earth purity, Whose luminosity is inborn worth Nourished by educated industry; Their rays, to men, return’d from bus’ness toil. Are gleams of true High favour’d happiness. ’Twere sweet, sociably sweet, to see a. 'Dame Finely attired, bishop’d in glosser frame; A beauteous bud leaf’d by man’s highest skill, Charming by love-ert[?sic] hands to free home from ill ; By her gracious presence first here, then there, Guiding and assisting in each chief care. She is at once class beauty beautified, Man’s love and own Art duly glorified. There exists not on Earth a sweeter flower, Than virtued woman in soilless attire. Such a material would suit many uses.</p> </blockquote> <p>He perhaps overestimates both the aesthetic and fire-retardant qualities of the actual realisation of this vision, but he was clearly far better suited to futurology than poetry as his other proposed inventions include the water drill, improved buffers for railway trains, a sort of x-ray machine using "concentrated light", signboards using electric lighting and tidal power generation. Perhaps if he had focussed on the applications of his knowledge and not written so much godawful poetry, the name of Sellars might stand with that of Edison or Bell.</p> <p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/pakamac.jpg"><img alt="" src="/sites/default/files/files/pakamac.jpg" data-entity-uuid="5c2e5843-07f9-4b1f-9253-ef158f87f8a1" data-entity-type="file" width="600px" height="378px" /></a></p> <p> </p></div> <section class="comment-list"> <h2>Comments</h2> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header"> Leave a comment </div> <div class="card-body"> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderForm" arguments="0=node&amp;1=1034&amp;2=comment_node_oddbook&amp;3=comment_node_oddbook" token="tRzxUcKSI5g2-jGdU_rQNaT3HnDmBWBCw-ffGfq6IKU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-60789" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1560727201"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">FrancoisTremblay (not verified)</span> on 17 Jun 2019 - 01:20</span> <a href="/comment/60789#comment-60789" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/60789#comment-60789" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I already don&#039;t like poetry</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I already don&#039;t like poetry in normal circumstances, but this is truly rancid. I guess vulgarization of science hadn&#039;t been invented yet!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=60789&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="6dXsEvtgaTjmHBD89VZJPoDMtLc30cRiogEP4hdbSi0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-60793" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1560758722"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 17 Jun 2019 - 10:05</span> <a href="/comment/60793#comment-60793" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/60793#comment-60793" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Francois, how can you not</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Francois, how can you not like poetry, after all the fine examples I have given you on this site? I am astonished.</p> <p>Alfred</p></div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=60793&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="Rs03yzO-dGp66R-lFx79-c4PyOmQdl3Cc0dpBla9y6g"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-60797" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1561141232"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Rasmus (not verified)</span> on 21 Jun 2019 - 20:20</span> <a href="/comment/60797#comment-60797" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/60797#comment-60797" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I love poetry, but I can say,</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I love poetry, but I can say, with utter conviction, that I have never loved rhodium to such an intense, indeed lascivious degree before! Once again, I bow down in stupefied reverence of your ability to show to us mere mortals where genuine apsiration may take us - to scientific brilliance and beyond! Greetings from Denmark.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=60797&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="8lCxWwCLLPPU19EFFDKicgkdFxxLPWuS0PYXnHhwsOI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-64587" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1569250357"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Cheryl (not verified)</span> on 23 Sep 2019 - 16:52</span> <a href="/comment/64587#comment-64587" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/64587#comment-64587" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I did not predict that Jesus </a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I did not predict that Jesus + chemistry + bad poetry = Pacamac, but perhaps that actually makes sense.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=64587&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="L6j8BbfQoGvGLrKBaJFYIv2XgjCG96K_NWB6L5lkSvQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> </section> Sun, 16 Jun 2019 16:00:09 +0000 Alfred Armstrong 1034 at http://oddbooks.com The Fourth Dimension and The Bible http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/fourth-dimension-and-bible <span>The Fourth Dimension and The Bible</span> <span><span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span></span> <span>17 Jun 2017 - 19:51</span> <div class="oddbook__field-author d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Author(s)<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">William Anthony Granville</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-publisher d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Publisher<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">Richard D Badger / The Gorham Press</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-pubdate d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Edition / Year<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">1922</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-file-under d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> File under<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__items"> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/christianity" hreflang="en">Christianity</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/pseudoscience" hreflang="en">pseudoscience</a></span> </div> </div> <div class="oddbook__taxonomy-vocabulary-1 d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> In the section labelled<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/category/odd-books/numb-and-number" hreflang="en">Numb and Number</a></div> </div> <div class="oddbook__body"><p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/Granville.JPG"><img alt="" src="/sites/default/files/files/Granville.JPG" data-entity-uuid="df3a18cb-b4c6-4cc9-96a9-8fccfaa792a5" data-entity-type="file" width="250px" height="304px" class="align-right" /></a>William Anthony Granville had <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Anthony_Granville">a distinguished career as a mathematician</a> though <a href="http://www.gettysburg.edu/special_collections/college_archives/record_groups/rg206.dot">one online source</a> mentions some unspecified controversy during his tenure as President of Gettysburg College. <em>The Fourth Dimension and The Bible</em> was printed by a vanity publisher, so it was at his own expense and probably at a loss.</p> <p>To be honest, I was not expecting to be able to say very much of interest about this rather drab little volume, but I took it to the park with me to browse through in the sunshine, hoping for inspiration. It was warm and I had lunched well, so at some point I may have dozed off. Hours must have passed because when I awoke it was dusk. I felt rather befuddled after my nap, and was further disconcerted to hear a voice addressing me from within my own stomach, or so it seemed.</p> <p>"Mr. Armstrong?"</p> <p>"Who's that? Where are you?", I replied in a low tone, prodding my belly tentatively with my forefingers.</p> <p>"Oh! Sorry", it said, "Where ARE my manners. One moment while I manifest myself more acceptably". There was at once a very odd noise, as if space itself were being unzipped and zipped up again, and something looking like a man-sized bunch of grapes appeared swaying before me. Alarmingly, each 'grape' of the bunch resembled nothing so much as a human buttock, being as they were so fleshy and hairy and tremulous. I blenched at the sight. What WAS this?</p> <p>"No, that's not what I intended. Decidedly not", it said, and performed a rotation, as it seemed, on an axis somewhere out of our universe altogether, transforming itself by this ingenious means into the semblance of a middle-aged Victorian gentleman of sober disposition and dress .</p> <p>"My very sincere apologies for this  unconventional entrance, my dear Mr. Armstrong", he said. "I have not visited your world in many decades, and am very much out of practice. Permit me to introduce myself. My name is Edwin Abbott Abbott." And he bowed his head in greeting.</p> <p>"THE <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Edwin_Abbott_Abbott">Edwin Abbott Abbott</a>? The author of <a href="https://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Flatland_(second_edition)">Flatland</a>?". Delight and disbelief pervaded me. Abbott’s work was one of those special books I'd discovered in the voracious reading of my youth. It had entranced me with its mixture of whimsy and profound mathematical ideas.</p> <p>"You know my work? How gratifying. But I understand you are a collector of books so perhaps that is not surprising. And that fact reminds me of my mission today: I have come from from dimensions beyond to warn you about the one you are reading." He reached out and plucked the book from my lap and held it up disdainfully.</p> <p>"William Anthony Granville followed in my footsteps as a mathematical proselytiser. He shared my own interest in the possibilities of higher dimensions. Also like me, he was a sincere Christian, but he ventured to unify the subjects of mathematics and theology, and in so doing he fell into a dangerous heresy. Before you write about it on the Internet where billions might read your words, it is my duty to make this clear to you.”</p> <p>“How extraordinary, Mr. Abbott,” I said. “I would not have thought it necessary to come all this way from … erm … wherever it is you now reside, just to talk about this weird little book.”</p> <p>"It is no trouble at all, really. In fact the next world is a lot closer than you might think.” He gave a little sad smile, and I shivered at his meaning.</p> <p>“Granville’s book contains much that is reminiscent of Flatland, I would venture to say”, he went on, “but as I said he had an altogether more ambitious goal. To shed light on the very mysteries of our common faith, indeed! And to do so using those very tools I spent so much of my own earthly time on, the mathematics of spaces greater than three dimensions. Here for example,” and without needing to look for the page, he opened the book to the place he wanted, and read aloud.</p> <blockquote> <p>“The Bible abounds with numerous accounts of celestial visitors (angels, archangels, prophets, and God himself) revealing themselves to inhabitants of our earth. In view of our discussion it is near at hand for us to think of them as coming down from the higher dimensional spaces in which they dwell and, after having fulfilled their missions in our three-dimensional space, to again ascend on high.</p> </blockquote> <p>"As a reader of popular science and mathematics books, you probably understand what he is saying here, but I have the habit of explication and must indulge it. Please bear with me.” He paused a moment in thought and then went on.</p> <p>"A being (such as myself) who exists in four dimensions can enter a three-dimensional space (such as yours), appearing as if out of thin air. An analogy you might find useful is that of a swimmer who steps into a shallow pond. If there were two-dimensional creatures living in the surface of the pond their world would seem to have been invaded by two roughly circular entities moving through it in sudden thrusts. These intruders would be in fact just cross-sections of the swimmer's legs, but the creatures of the surface being unable to see - or even conceive of - what is above or below, would experience them as separate.</p> <p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/granville2.jpg"><img alt="Visitations by cubes" src="/sites/default/files/files/granville2.jpg" data-entity-uuid="792d1a27-b328-4f21-b1c6-5b2b014a420a" data-entity-type="file" width="684px" height="263px" /></a></p> <p>Some cubes visiting a two-dimensional world.</p> <p>"It is this ability to pop in and out of your universe at will that Granville claims may explain certain Biblical miracles, do you see? God and his servants belong to a world beyond. May it not be subject to the laws of mathematics just as this one is? Or so he might ask.”</p> <p>I frowned. “Hold on, isn’t there a problem with this idea? When you appeared to me a few minutes ago you were clearly struggling with the mechanics of entering our space. It’s not really surprising, actually, now I think about it. A four-dimensional being entering our space appears as a slice of itself. To go back to your analogy of the surface of a lake, I don’t know what the creatures living there would look like but not the cross-section of a man’s calf. It’s very strange that you manage to look so like a human being now, as seems very unlikely that you could manage it.”</p> <p>“Yes indeed, well observed. You have detected one of Granville’s errors. The truth of the matter is that I am not actually here at all, this body you see is just a mask, a recreation of how I looked when alive, not how I am now. Unfortunately our true forms are so alien in their outlines that to see even the shadow of one as it impinged on your world would drive you insane. Hence we have to use machines to represent ourselves to the inhabitants of lower dimensional realms. One selects the form one wishes and it is projected holographically into your spatial continuum. At least, that is the intention: as you may have gathered, the device I am using is rather badly maintained, hence my rather inelegant entrance a few minutes ago.”</p> <p>He frowned apologetically. “Anyway, to return to the subject, Granville is not content to confine himself to the comings and goings of divine beings, but has other fish to fry, so to speak,” and he opened the book at a fresh passage.</p> <blockquote> <p>“Numerous instances are recorded in the Bible where new matter or new energy was apparently added to our material universe by supernatural means. The manna falling in the wilderness, the ever replenished oil in the widow’s cruse and the loaves and fishes which fed the five thousand, all this food may have been the three-dimensional sections of higher dimensional supplies projected at those particular times thru our space by some higher agency.”</p> </blockquote> <p>“Is four-dimensional food good for us to eat?”, I wondered. “Again, it seems like your man Granville is making somewhat optimistic assumptions about the nature of higher dimensional realms .”</p> <p>“I wouldn’t recommend it for human consumption, no.”, Abbott said, plucking a wriggling fruit-lizard hybrid out of the air and mock-offering it to me before making it vanish again. “And, anyway, a God who created the entire universe can rustle up a few loaves from nothing if He chooses, without having to raid the four-dimensional larder for left-overs. There is also the matter of time, which Granville makes a right hash of, if you’ll pardon the expression. He seems to have thought that this hypothetical extra dimension in which God dwells could also be that of <em>time</em>, as he writes:</p> <blockquote> <p>“If time is but the way in which we perceive the fourth dimension, then our spiritual selves, being higher-dimensional, are independent of time, outside of time, that is, eternal.</p> </blockquote> <p>“Politely put, this is hogwash,” Abbott said tetchily.</p> <p>“Absolutely,” I nodded. “Even if time is an extra dimension then we already exist in it. To step outside of it would require one more dimension at least. How many more does he need?”</p> <p>“He’s very gung-ho with his dimensions,” said Abbott, “and to write about the relationships of space and time in 1922 without so much as mentioning the work of Albert Einstein smacks of churlishness. Einstein may have been an agnostic but he surely did a lot more than Granville to shed light on the subject.”</p> <p>“This is all very interesting,” I said. “But although he was clearly somewhat misguided and carried away by his own enthusiasm I fail to see why you think Granville’s book is dangerous.”</p> <p>“Have you not guessed?” He brought his face close to mine and I saw in the eyes a strange flickering, that might have been the fires of Hell. “Actually, he was <strong>RIGHT</strong>. “</p> <p>And with that, whoever or whatever it was I’d been talking to disappeared in a sudden blaze of light, taking the book with him.</p> <p>You might guess I shall not be seeking another copy.</p></div> <section class="comment-list"> <h2>Comments</h2> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header"> Leave a comment </div> <div class="card-body"> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderForm" arguments="0=node&amp;1=1023&amp;2=comment_node_oddbook&amp;3=comment_node_oddbook" token="qnbf9xKFjkxwOVksvt1ptge0Un5wgFlm4ThqXbmvNMo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-49995" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1497726008"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">John Grant (not verified)</span> on 17 Jun 2017 - 21:00</span> <a href="/comment/49995#comment-49995" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/49995#comment-49995" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Great stuff! I&#039;ll be keeping</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Great stuff! I&#039;ll be keeping an eye out for this one. Sort of.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=49995&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="siU8Oi6TFSAmCIF221hoUpNHSNjZ9iR3jDoLo0hySPo"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-49996" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1497730034"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">MissTrixie (not verified)</span> on 17 Jun 2017 - 22:07</span> <a href="/comment/49996#comment-49996" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/49996#comment-49996" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I think I&#039;ll just wait for</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I think I&#039;ll just wait for one to appear.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=49996&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="i5RwLEO5NcCmqYhJUr-NcCSJmY9UOiutx1CTyDMtd7g"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-50007" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1497784994"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Cyber (not verified)</span> on 18 Jun 2017 - 13:23</span> <a href="/comment/50007#comment-50007" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/50007#comment-50007" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I do not think that God</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I do not think that God resides in the fourth dimension. It seems more likely to me that he would reside above the firmament of our flat earth. Einstein was a hoax though.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=50007&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="bQi7BztKWEnguagLV80a76PVaWM5t8t_JFU9dOqBPko"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-67198" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1581109389"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">James A Pascarella (not verified)</span> on 07 Feb 2020 - 22:03</span> <a href="/comment/67198#comment-67198" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/67198#comment-67198" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">MODEL EXPLAINS HOW THE HOLY</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>MODEL EXPLAINS HOW THE HOLY SPIRIT IN A CHRISTIAN OVER COME HIS BOLDLY TAKES OVER WHEN HE IN CHARGE AND THE WILL OF THE FATHER IS DONE.. WE ARE INDEED NEW CREATURES IN CHRIST.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=67198&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="qLDJJeIjhRPJT7iwRBfXDR8qxO4pKobiwl-nyNk0Ix4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-67199" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1581109643"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">James A Pascarella (not verified)</span> on 07 Feb 2020 - 22:07</span> <a href="/comment/67199#comment-67199" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/67199#comment-67199" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN ASK</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>YOU MUST BE BORN AGAIN ASK JESUS TO SAVE YOU AND HE WILL . HE ADDS THE HOLY SPIRIT TO US AND WE ARE THUS NEW CREATURES..</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=67199&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="njiSEblceo7l8760EncK8k_6zIyZe1LTqPBNxUDG2NA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-67201" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1581110412"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">James A Pascarella (not verified)</span> on 07 Feb 2020 - 22:20</span> <a href="/comment/67201#comment-67201" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/67201#comment-67201" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">ROMANS 3:23 ALL HAVE SINNED</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>ROMANS 3:23 ALL HAVE SINNED AND COME SHORT OF THE GLORY OF GOD. ROMANS 5;8 :8UT GOD COMMENEDETH HIS L;OVE TOWARD US , IN THAT , WHILE WE WERE YET SINNERS, CHRIST DIED FOR US. ROMANS 6:23 fOR THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH,;BUT THE GIFT OF GOD IS ETERNAL LIFE THROUGH JESUS CHRIST OUR LORD JESUS PAID THE DEBT WE COULD NOT PAY AND GOD ACCEPTED HIS BLOOD, AS PAYMENT FOR OUR SINS. ROMANS 10:13 FOR WHOSOEVER SHA;LL CALL ON THE LORD SHALL BE SAVED.<br /> CALL ON THE LORD IN PAYER ASK HIM HE IS GRACES AND KIND</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=67201&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="FD_rRlPdIYxO4PeKA_1xbBo7D1FKgcaJIIhgB1BSelk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-67203" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1581110666"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">James A Pascarella (not verified)</span> on 07 Feb 2020 - 22:24</span> <a href="/comment/67203#comment-67203" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/67203#comment-67203" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">GO NOW AND TELL OTHERS OF THE</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>GO NOW AND TELL OTHERS OF THE FREE GIFT OF SALVATION AND LIVE A BLESSED LIFE. GO TO A CHURCH THE WILL BAPTIZE YOU AND YOU HAVE ETERNAL; LIFE BEFORE BAPTISM, YOU GE BAPTIZED BECAUSE YOU LOVE JESUS .</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=67203&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="qXWA9HEu96bMWF8m7N1qDky-C1shz8nKnV609LdYCrA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> </section> Sat, 17 Jun 2017 17:51:32 +0000 Alfred Armstrong 1023 at http://oddbooks.com http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/fourth-dimension-and-bible#comments Fiber Optics: The Eye of Antichrist http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/fiber-optics-eye-antichrist <span>Fiber Optics: The Eye of Antichrist</span> <span><span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span></span> <span>24 Apr 2016 - 13:44</span> <div class="oddbook__field-author d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Author(s)<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">Dr Emil Gaverluk, Dr Patrick Fisher</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-publisher d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Publisher<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">The Southwest Radio Church</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-pubdate d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Edition / Year<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">1979</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-file-under d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> File under<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__items"> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/christianity" hreflang="en">Christianity</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/technofear" hreflang="en">technofear</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/computers" hreflang="en">computers</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/too-much-fibre" hreflang="en">too much fibre</a></span> </div> </div> <div class="oddbook__taxonomy-vocabulary-1 d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> In the section labelled<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/category/odd-books/religious-bent" hreflang="en">The Religious Bent</a></div> </div> <div class="oddbook__body"><p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/imagecache/mobile/images/fiber-optics1.jpg"><img alt="Fiber optics - the eye of Antichrist" src="/sites/default/files/files/imagecache/mobile/images/fiber-optics1.jpg" data-entity-uuid="0ef3f916-b9c1-479c-abad-077b7862d16c" data-entity-type="file" width="250px" height="400px" class="align-right" /></a>Those of us who exist in a state of shuddering trepidation at the advances of technology will be grateful to Drs Gaverluk and Fisher for making available their analysis of the perils facing mankind. This is a useful addition to the literature which will stand alongside <em>Between Fire and Ice: Is your Central Heating Thermostat Possessed by Satan?</em> and <em>The Abomination of Anti-Lock Braking: The Minions of Beelzezeb Will Take Over Your Automobile and Drive You Straight to Hell!</em>.</p> <p>The work is a transcript of a radio show in which the eminent scholars discuss both the good and bad aspects of current technologies. They are keen on radio, unsurprisingly, and Fisher, a communications specialist is enthusiastic about the possibilities offfered by satellites to spread the gospel message:</p> <blockquote> <p>EMIL GAVERLUK: [...] eventually it will be possible for ordinary homes to have a small dish on the roof that could pick up the satellite from there.</p> <p>PATRICK FISHER: We have these now. There are one meter dishes, costing approximately one hundred dollars, which are able to pick up the satellite signal and bring transmissions from anywhere on the entire globe to your home set right now.</p> <p>EMIL GAVERLUK: The net effect then is that we already have a satellite system in existence that we can use to preach the Gospel, and reach "billions" of people.</p> <p>PATRICK FISHER: I am convinced that we have to reach "billions". The number that I find acceptable in my own mind is a conversion rate of one million people per day, nothing less - maybe more, but no less.</p> </blockquote> <p>Such optimism is inspiring. Fisher's contention is that all that is needed to convert the godless masses of the world is to broadcast the Bible at them. A million a day, <em>easy</em>.</p> <p>If satellites are A Good Thing, then credit cards are the very work of the Devil. A cunning plan is afoot to bring about the coming of the Antichrist through financial product marketing:</p> <blockquote> <p>PATRICK FISHER: This is actually a warning. Many people will be "brainwashed" into accepting one new card that is superior to all other cards. Look at your own wallet. Remember the early American Express and gasoline cards that you were once content with? When Master Charge became available, we were told that it was better than other credit cards because it gave us interbank privileges. They are now promoting Visa as being superior to Master Charge for those who travel and would like to combine their hotel costs with their traveling expenses. Basically, we are being "brainwashed" into the acceptance of "one number", since the quantity of our credit cards is slowly being narrowed to one. That number will give access to information concerning every detail of your life from the time you were born to the time you die. Computer programming has become so efficient that a single telephone call from anywhere in Europe, the Middle East countries, or North America, to a bank can now clear your credit rating instantly. I don't know the name of the card we have been discussing, but you will recognize it because it will be advertised extensively. It may even be sent to you free of charge, and you'll be told how convenient it's going to be. I feel that this card is the final step preceding the numbering of people on their foreheads or hands. </p> </blockquote> <p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/imagecache/mobile/images/fiber-optics2.jpg"><img alt="" src="/sites/default/files/files/imagecache/mobile/images/fiber-optics2.jpg" data-entity-uuid="6e30b93b-b075-41fd-94ee-a694b0c8976f" data-entity-type="file" width="250px" height="285px" class="align-right" /></a>Sign up now for our best ever rate! Call 1800-666-BEAST today and claim YOUR free gift of a mystic number fashion forehead sticker.  Mark of the Beast™ may cause exclusion from the Kingdom of God. Terms and conditions apply.</p> <p>It is not only credit cards that one has to beware. As the title of the book implies, Fiber Optics are to be employed for the enslavement of humanity:</p> <blockquote> <p>PATRICK FISHER: I have some magazines giving information on "fiber optics" which are being used to connect the television set in your home to cable TV. This is a much more efficient way to transmit by cable. The advantages of this are that you will get a much clearer picture, and it may even offer you a larger range of programs. The fiber optics cable is in fact a two-way light pipe; at the TV end, it will not only bring, the signal into your home, but there are little pinhead-sized fish eye lenses in the cable which can watch you.</p> <p>EMIL GAVERLUK: The signal reverses and goes right back through the same pipe, to the source, so that they can monitor what you are doing in your own home.</p> <p>PATRICK FISHER: They are visiting you in your living-room without your knowledge. The first ten thousand units were built and installed without anyone knowing it, because the lenses are built into the cable. These cables were installed under the false premise that this little lens would allow the set to adjust for differ light levels in your room.</p> <p>EMIL GAVERLUK: We now have the communications capability to actually watch you in your home with your television set off! I have a sample of that fiber optic that I use in my lectures. I put it into my laser beam and it comes out the other end absolutely pure. I have some impure fiber optics and they light up on the end, and a lot of material is lost in that. The telephone system in Chicago is already using it in lieu of copper wire because copper is getting scarce and expensive. They can transmit 100 television programs or 100,000 radio programs all at the same time. It not only transmits one way to give you a tremendous variety of entertainment, but it can photograph you in your own home. In other words, people can sit in a transmitting station somewhere and watch you on a monitor. They can flash across and pick out any home they want.</p> <p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/imagecache/mobile/images/fiber-optics3.jpg"><img alt="" src="/sites/default/files/files/imagecache/mobile/images/fiber-optics3.jpg" data-entity-uuid="53cf4f45-cd17-4e61-8c6c-4e3b0743b81e" data-entity-type="file" width="250px" height="248px" class="align-right" /></a>PATRICK FISHER: There is a test installation in a small city just outside Winnipeg in Manitoba. It has a population of about 10,000 people and their domestic cable TVs use a bundle of fiber optics. On one a little fish~eye lens picks up everybody who is in the room where the television set is, and the speaker is already two way. This is a gross invasion of privacy. A person may be 10 miles away in a television transmitting studio, but he can see and hear everything that happens in your room while you sit and watch the TV set.</p> <p>EMIL GAVERLUK: In other words, one man can monitor a whole city of television sets.</p> <p>PATRICK FISHER: In this case, 10,000 homes.</p> </blockquote> <p>Brrr, chilling. I don't know what you do while you watch TV, but since reading this I've abandoned a number of despicable practices. Those TV eyes won't see anything untoward in <em>my</em> house, oh no.</p> <p>Emil Gaverluk also predicted that The Rapture would occur in 1981. It didn't. He was still at it in 1988, with his <cite>Rapture Before the Russian Invasion of Israel</cite> which presumably assigns a later date to this event. As far as I can tell, he is no longer alive so unable to update us with a more accurate timeline. Patrick Fisher did not establish the worldwide Biblical satellite network he was striving for, but hey, we've got <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sluNuVp2_TE">Youtube</a>.</p></div> <section class="comment-list"> <h2>Comments</h2> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header"> Leave a comment </div> <div class="card-body"> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderForm" arguments="0=node&amp;1=1010&amp;2=comment_node_oddbook&amp;3=comment_node_oddbook" token="Vp9RB5_nbOTadDVIXaBlhOJPicyhICZo1CL06vAjOV4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-45017" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1461552035"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gruff (not verified)</span> on 25 Apr 2016 - 04:40</span> <a href="/comment/45017#comment-45017" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/45017#comment-45017" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Post-Snowden, how can you</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Post-Snowden, how can you make such light of this?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=45017&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="sg6m8994hbFHy5nyQua9OWP2mumn2EyXPD6nFX6ed80"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-45022" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1461572788"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 25 Apr 2016 - 10:26</span> <a href="/comment/45022#comment-45022" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/45022#comment-45022" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I am in thrall to the forces</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I am in thrall to the forces of darkness, sorry.</p></div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=45022&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="V7G7gb5r2gauSZciXxvN3J1dss2aYUFFJkDuTYRQnx8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/45017#comment-45017" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Post-Snowden, how can you</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gruff (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-45697" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1465819587"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">FrancoisTremblay (not verified)</span> on 13 Jun 2016 - 14:06</span> <a href="/comment/45697#comment-45697" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/45697#comment-45697" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Well this is a post-9/11</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Well this is a post-9/11 world. Obabo has destroyed our privacy. But Donald Duck will make Americer greater againer.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=45697&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="VK8f5RtZgHkG0WxTOgXvAJ6wNFVI4kmOeAH7WLfcix4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/45017#comment-45017" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Post-Snowden, how can you</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">gruff (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-45698" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1465820652"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 13 Jun 2016 - 14:24</span> <a href="/comment/45698#comment-45698" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/45698#comment-45698" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Isn&#039;t it post-post-9/11 yet?</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Isn't it post-post-9/11 yet? Must get my epochal calendar serviced.</p></div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=45698&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="FMSmZXm9XflKxgsQeg2B_Ys6KIMK2ksrWQCm2WIzBvA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/45697#comment-45697" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Well this is a post-9/11</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">FrancoisTremblay (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div></div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-45028" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1461610157"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">terry the censor (not verified)</span> on 25 Apr 2016 - 20:49</span> <a href="/comment/45028#comment-45028" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/45028#comment-45028" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Alfred, I am surprised how</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Alfred, I am surprised how many commenters take issue with your reviews.</p> <p>Keep up the good work.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=45028&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="3SLFBmAVnIPESlWjD816dYh3O5mxz7t2Dcf-KGTHjD8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-45038" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1461667249"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 26 Apr 2016 - 12:40</span> <a href="/comment/45038#comment-45038" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/45038#comment-45038" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Better to be argued with than</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Better to be argued with than ignored! Thanks for the kind words.</p></div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=45038&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="iMvcoxsGOwee3ZrhNbjjpDVEI96z4b448lm2S57Bbyc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/45028#comment-45028" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Alfred, I am surprised how</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">terry the censor (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-47429" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1475926798"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Joe S. Walker (not verified)</span> on 08 Oct 2016 - 13:39</span> <a href="/comment/47429#comment-47429" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/47429#comment-47429" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">In a 1984 world, watching</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>In a 1984 world, watching through the telescreens would usually be the most boring job imaginable.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=47429&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="8WQlf_1-qPJMNPsj7M01QfZg9I5be6dFgxhRYOI3NQE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> </section> Sun, 24 Apr 2016 11:44:38 +0000 Alfred Armstrong 1010 at http://oddbooks.com http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/fiber-optics-eye-antichrist#comments The Quest for Right, Volume 1 http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/quest-right-volume-1 <span>The Quest for Right, Volume 1</span> <span><span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span></span> <span>05 May 2014 - 21:01</span> <div class="oddbook__field-author d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Author(s)<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">C David Parsons</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-subtitle">The adventure of a lifetime</div> <div class="oddbook__field-publisher d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Publisher<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">Tate Publishing</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-pubdate d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Edition / Year<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">2007</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-file-under d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> File under<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__items"> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/christianity" hreflang="en">Christianity</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/creationism" hreflang="en">creationism</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/delightful-illustrations" hreflang="en">delightful illustrations</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/invented-terminology" hreflang="en">invented terminology</a></span> </div> </div> <div class="oddbook__taxonomy-vocabulary-1 d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> In the section labelled<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/category/odd-books/religious-bent" hreflang="en">The Religious Bent</a></div> </div> <div class="oddbook__body"><p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/quest4right.jpg"><img alt="" src="/sites/default/files/files/quest4right.jpg" data-entity-uuid="d91fc846-6cc7-43fc-a753-40bbc9dae988" data-entity-type="file" width="250px" height="325px" class="align-right" /></a>On the cover of <em>The Quest for Right, Volume 1</em>, there's a row of stars with just one brighter than the rest. If the author was honestly giving himself a one star review, that would be fair enough, but no, he means to indicate in fact that this is just the first in a seven-volume series by the self-proclaimed "Bible scholar and scientist extraordinaire". </p> <p>Yes, C. David Parsons would like to be seen as not merely a scientist but one <em>extraordinaire</em>. From the evidence of this book it is would seem that one earns this particular label not by actually carrying out any science such as mere scientists <em>ordinaires</em> might do, but by making stuff up straight out of one's stupid fat head.</p> <p>What's most appalling about the result is that it is meant as a textbook for teaching children, even though it is full of the most ridiculous rambling drivel. It is a measure of the desperate nature of the creationist project that a crank such as Parsons is able to have his crazed nonsense published in a high quality edition, on heavy gloss paper with full colour printing, simply because his goal is to show that the Bible is the first book of scientific literature. His publisher does not seem bothered that Parsons produces no evidence for his crackpot ideas, apparently all that matters is that he claims Biblical support for them.</p> <p>In order to make out that the Bible has anything at all to say about modern scientific ideas, it is necessary to <a href="http://oddbooks.co.uk/oddbooks/ralphcnelson.html">twist its meaning in a quite grotesque fashion</a>. When it comes to such reinterpretation of the ancient text, Parsons is prepared to go much further than most, so that he says for example that Job 38:6, usually rendered as:</p> <blockquote> <p>Whereupon are the foundations thereof fastened? or who laid the corner stone thereof;</p> </blockquote> <p>should be revised to read:</p> <blockquote> <p>Whereupon are the <em>sedimentary</em> foundations thereof fastened? or who caused the nebulous rain to descend on the corner stone thereof;</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/quest4right4.jpg"><img alt="" src="/sites/default/files/files/quest4right4.jpg" data-entity-uuid="a4cbb0ba-97ce-484b-8bd0-3bfb369ef5c3" data-entity-type="file" width="250px" height="321px" class="align-right" /></a></p> <p>to supposedly demonstrate that the Bible describes the formation of the Earth with scientific accuracy. Well, sort of. Parsons has own his wacky version of science to match his wacky version of Christianity. Anything else is just wrong. In Parsons' private universe, science is a kind of rival hierarchy to the Church, and its ideas can be established purely by authority. He several times mentions something called the "scientific council" which he appears to believe is a ruling body which determines the current scientific orthodoxy. Presumably this is one of those conspiracies that is so powerful it is able to hide all evidence of its existence, like the Illuminati or the Tufty Club.</p> <p>One of Parson's notions is that it is unchristian to mention the names of pagan gods and so the planets of the solar system should be renamed accordingly:</p> <table border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"> <caption> Revised Names for Planets</caption> <thead> <tr> <th> Name</th> <th> Revised Name</th> <th> Name</th> <th> Revised Name</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr> <td> Sun</td> <td> Sun, <em>Sensor</em></td> <td> Jupiter</td> <td> <em>Controller</em></td> </tr> <tr> <td> Mercury</td> <td> <em>Tether</em></td> <td> Saturn</td> <td> <em>Observer</em></td> </tr> <tr> <td> Venus</td> <td> <em>Braker</em></td> <td> Uranus</td> <td> <em>Preventer</em></td> </tr> <tr> <td> Earth</td> <td> Earth, "Life Giving</td> <td> Neptune</td> <td> <em>Exerciser</em></td> </tr> <tr> <td> Moon</td> <td> Moon, "Night-liaison"</td> <td> Pluto</td> <td> <em>Restrainer</em></td> </tr> <tr> <td> Mars</td> <td> <em>Ruler</em></td> <td> moon/satellite</td> <td> <em>regulator</em></td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p>Just how useful this innovation is will immediately be apparent. </p> <p>As is often the case with cranks, Parsons has a beef with non-classical physics and quantum physics in particular. Being so extraordinaire, he has been able to devise an alternative classical atomic model. Unfortunately it is utter bollocks. With blithe disregard of any need for experimental validation, he proceeds to lay out a scheme which is essentially fictional. It has made-up terms for made-up components of matter ("struts", "buttresses", "protrubands" and so on)  which behave in a made-up manner. Naturally enough there are no equations nor any tests that would help demonstrate the superiority of his model over conventional physics. But - because under his scheme all conventional radioactive dating is incorrect, and therefore the usual age given for the Earth of 4 billion years can be discarded in favour of one consistent with <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Young_Earth_creationism">Young Earth Creationism</a> - his theories are Biblical.</p> <p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/quest4right3.jpg"><img alt="" src="/sites/default/files/files/quest4right3.jpg" data-entity-uuid="ef78b8f2-0067-4e52-8913-76689ad8303e" data-entity-type="file" width="400px" height="271px" /></a></p> <p>To be properly godly, much accepted science must be swept away. Capillary action, the browning of fruit, the transmission of light through glass; all the conventional explanations are to be rewritten in line with Parsons' new scientific doctrine. He helpfully tabulates old against new for comparision, of which here's a sample:</p> <table border="1" cellpadding="1" cellspacing="1"> <thead> <tr> <th> Failed Premises </th> <th> Reasoning Anew</th> </tr> </thead> <tbody> <tr> <td> The atom’s nucleus consists of nucleons (protons and neutrons) around which electrons orbit in fixed shells; the atom consists of mostly empty space.</td> <td> The charge consists of a family cluster of energy cells (called a protruband) and buttresses adhered together by planned interaction (i.e., the mutual electrostatic attraction between their opposite electrical charges and magnetism).</td> </tr> <tr> <td> The nucleus is 1/1,000,000 the size of the entire atom.</td> <td> The design ratio of a protruband to a buttress is that of a quarter to a dime.</td> </tr> <tr> <td> An orbiting electron weaves a shell around the tiny nucleus at a speed of no less than seven million billion rotations per second. The atom may be compared to a miniature sun-earth system.</td> <td> A buttress is electrostatically attached to an open field of a protruband. Classical electrodynamics forbids a buttress to orbit the central cluster, as any particle in orbit would be immediately subdued by centripetal acceleration (the tendency of an object to move toward the center of rotation.)</td> </tr> <tr> <td> The scintillations on the screen in Sir Rutherford’s experiment announced the arrival of ionized particles as they passed unimpeded through the mostly empty space of the atoms constituting the gold foil.</td> <td> The strut bullets became immersed or imbedded in the molecular structure of the gold foil. Each sparkle announced the passage of a single wave train of light in an instance of absorption. This is an absolute.</td> </tr> <tr> <td> The element hydrogen consists of a solitary electron orbiting a single proton.</td> <td> A hydrocluster consists of a great number of energy cells; pure hydrogen does not possess a buttress.</td> </tr> <tr> <td> The periodic table of the elements, establishing an assigned number of protons, electrons, and neutrons, is based on the conclusion that hydrogen possesses one proton and one electron.</td> <td> The ill-fated periodic table of the elements is wiped clean of all supposed elementary numbers and electrical charges. The chart is a ruse.</td> </tr> </tbody> </table> <p>Balderdash would be too kind a word, wouldn't it? All this would be amusing if there were not creationists actively at work in <a href="http://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress.com/2014/01/28/teaching-creationism-is-widespread-in-u-s-public-schools/">US</a> and <a href="http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/belief/2012/nov/30/free-schools-creationism">UK</a> schools. Not all creationists are as batty as Parsons, but they are all equally wrong, in that they think their beliefs about what an old book says should be afforded the same respect as serious scientific endeavour. This is a dangerous notion indeed.</p></div> <section class="comment-list"> <h2>Comments</h2> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header"> Leave a comment </div> <div class="card-body"> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderForm" arguments="0=node&amp;1=1000&amp;2=comment_node_oddbook&amp;3=comment_node_oddbook" token="auXSm-DzcU6uC9-2-qKYTi3rB0fKN2RxgVDzUvVX9O4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2304" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1399322119"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">John Grant (not verified)</span> on 05 May 2014 - 22:35</span> <a href="/comment/2304#comment-2304" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2304#comment-2304" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Have you had a look at the</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Have you had a look at the Tate Publishing website? It&#039;s one of those supposedly Xtian companies that&#039;s far to the right of sanity.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2304&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="C6ypRq5ph4rd-JedfS9luL2T28Xdnvo7iY5ua77zI6Y"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-2306" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1399324844"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 05 May 2014 - 23:20</span> <a href="/comment/2306#comment-2306" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2306#comment-2306" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Indeed I have, John. Yes,</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Indeed I have, John. Yes, bonkers.</p></div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2306&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="FHgCBvVpqo2O9__xiDS01l8omEwQd2Yy3bbyVCn6Pb0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/2304#comment-2304" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Have you had a look at the</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">John Grant (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2305" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1399323897"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ian Kearey (not verified)</span> on 05 May 2014 - 23:05</span> <a href="/comment/2305#comment-2305" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2305#comment-2305" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">And there&#039;s a Volume 2? Oy</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>And there&#039;s a Volume 2? Oy gevalt.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2305&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="X_zj4B6qcccKXJI0NghwVdK3y18ML0mZdbzxgIkW0us"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2308" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1399397834"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lisa Fred (not verified)</span> on 06 May 2014 - 19:37</span> <a href="/comment/2308#comment-2308" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2308#comment-2308" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I could read crazy science</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I could read crazy science stuff all day, love the diagrams.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2308&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="_10fVu3WVkeKk13j77oEvN_CNASBAT7_ojUIpVg4YT4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2311" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1399405667"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ned Brooks (not verified)</span> on 06 May 2014 - 21:47</span> <a href="/comment/2311#comment-2311" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2311#comment-2311" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Up to volume 3 on the AddAll</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Up to volume 3 on the AddAll used-book search engine, and priced from $3 to $75. Some of this first title are library discards - of course libraries regularly discard or sell donated books! But it&#039;s priced about the same as a new book - you don&#039;t say if a price appears on the book. If one turns up at the thrift store, I will get it for the Silly Book collection.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2311&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="dXZrI2q60xRTzRFDLS3Qs9W7JbKZDCSrICcjR8XAHPc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2313" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1399412464"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ned Brooks (not verified)</span> on 06 May 2014 - 23:41</span> <a href="/comment/2313#comment-2313" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2313#comment-2313" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">testing</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>testing</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2313&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="43fg8TZjJ3F9RV01xztkr5KkSXUsAgjYwRvC53JBu3E"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2328" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1399633218"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">FrancoisTremblay (not verified)</span> on 09 May 2014 - 13:00</span> <a href="/comment/2328#comment-2328" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2328#comment-2328" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">What a whopping mistake on</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>What a whopping mistake on the planets list: everyone knows Restrainer is no longer a planet, and it&#039;s all Neil deGrasse Tyson&#039;s fault. The damned atheists strike again!!! But what does C David Parsons say about a possible manned mission to Ruler??</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2328&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="1MTStBr-SKOHmCtFMnlTTPyF_f-GUdflFqkRQLEi5VA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> </section> Mon, 05 May 2014 19:01:33 +0000 Alfred Armstrong 1000 at http://oddbooks.com The Other Side of the Coin http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/other-side-coin <span>The Other Side of the Coin</span> <span><span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span></span> <span>14 Sep 2011 - 20:44</span> <div class="oddbook__field-author d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Author(s)<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">Patience Strong</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-subtitle">Reflections on a visit to South Africa</div> <div class="oddbook__field-publisher d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Publisher<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">Bachman &amp; Turner</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-pubdate d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Edition / Year<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">1976</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-file-under d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> File under<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__items"> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/racism" hreflang="en">racism</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/christianity" hreflang="en">Christianity</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/right-wing-politics" hreflang="en">right-wing politics</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/british-israelites" hreflang="en">British-Israelites</a></span> </div> </div> <div class="oddbook__taxonomy-vocabulary-1 d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> In the section labelled<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/category/odd-books/lone-voices" hreflang="en">Lone Voices</a></div> </div> <div class="oddbook__body"><p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/pstrong1.jpg"><img alt="" height="318" src="/sites/default/files/files/pstrong1.jpg" data-entity-uuid="df551862-e75c-424a-aec5-6817f6b2fe30" data-entity-type="file" class="align-right align-right" width="200" /></a>When I picked up this book recently I knew Patience Strong only as the author of queasy verses on sentimental themes to be found in my mother's favourite weekly magazine, <em>Woman's Own</em>. <em>The Other Side of the Coin</em> reveals a more disturbing side to Strong's character than could be guessed at from her clunky paeans to roses and sunsets.</p> <p>Her purpose here is straightforward enough, to persuade readers that criticism of the apartheid system of South Africa was misinformed. Apartheid, according to Strong (real name Winifred Emma May), was not merely better than its critics would claim but positively beneficial to the inhabitants of the country, white and black alike.</p> <p>Her book falls into two halves: a description of a visit to South Africa during which she meets no one who is not charming and polite; and a more polemical second half in which she builds on her defence of apartheid by expounding political and religious ideas that are idiosyncratic at best.</p> <p>Strong's first encounter with South Africa is uncomfortable, as during the sea-voyage there she developed a toothache. But with little delay after her arrival she is taken to an attentive local dentist, Dr Hotz, who not only treats her but waives the bill. She takes a rather complacent view of such good fortune:</p> <blockquote> <p>The whole trip was a series of these little miracles as if everything had been already worked out for me by some supernatural agency, down to the smallest detail.</p> <p>I could not go wrong. It was like the small bits of a jigsaw puzzle coming together to make a complete picture. But this was nothing new. From my earliest days my life has been like that and I have sometimes felt that I had no free will of my own, so wonderfully and inexplicably have things worked out when I have trusted "the current that knows its way".</p> </blockquote> <p>Some of these little miracles may have a more earthly explanation. She tells us that the press knew of her coming and that "as soon as I arrived the telephone was ringing in my bedroom every few minutes". At this time the regime had few friends abroad and it was likely that an English writer who might be sympathetic to the cause would be treated with generosity.</p> <p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/pstrong2.jpg"><img alt="" height="278" src="/sites/default/files/files/pstrong2.jpg" data-entity-uuid="5321c6ca-06d9-4772-bc14-c63618aad3d7" data-entity-type="file" class="align-right align-right" width="200" /></a>Whether that was the case or not, they had a willing gull in Strong. All the white people she meets are friendly and welcoming, while the black servants and waiters are universally "happy-looking". She unquestioningly repeats the ridiculous myth that <a href="http://www.historytoday.com/shula-marks/south-africa-myth-empty-land">South Africa was empty before white settlers arrived</a>.</p> <p>The South Africa she finds is like England with better weather, an England in its golden age before it started to go to the bad. Television, with its "vulgar and visually pornographic" programming, has not yet arrived, astonishingly, though it is on its way. Her worries that television will spoil this paradise are assuaged by a young man who reassures her that "programmes which offended against the laws of decency would not be permitted, and some sort of censorship would have to be accepted, as it should be in any civilised country." So that's all right, then.</p> <p>Strong's musings range further afield. She is impressed that South Africa has a law against picking wild flowers, and wishes the same were true in her home country (it is now). She wonders what the purpose of the ostrich is, and concludes that it stands as a representation of feckless stupidity. She argues the merits of the stand-up calendar over the hanging variety.</p> <p>She gives a talk to a horticultural group, who don't want to hear her talk about her garden, but rather about how England is being ruined by Harold Wilson and similar types. Before the talk a group of schoolboys perform a "minstrel show", blacked up and playing banjos. One of them gives her his hat as a gift, which she refers to with no trace of irony as her "coon's boater".</p> <p>Whatever else it is, this is not great travel writing. She has a weakness for the inconsequential detail as here, for example:</p> <blockquote> <p>The following morning was occupied with packing and conversations on the telephone. A taxi driven by a Swede took me to the boat at two thirty for we were due to sail at four.</p> <p>I went into my cabin and there on the dressing table was a bouquet of pink roses left by Mr Bankey who had been to the docks at twelve, thinking I would have come aboard before lunch. I was sorry to have missed him, as I did upon my arrival. The cabin steward put my George proteas in the cool room but I decided to keep the Arthirium lilies in my cabin with the roses.</p> </blockquote> <p>One bonus of her being so boring a writer is that fewer readers will make it to the latter part of her book, which is even more egregious an assault on reason than what precedes it. The lightly-veiled racism present throughout her travelogue becomes explicit. Absurdly, though she constantly characterises people by reference to their supposed racial origin she does not consider herself a racist, but reserves the term for those of an opposing view, who are, she says, "pro-black" and therefore "racist" against white people.</p> <p>This warped view is of a piece with her espousal of the nutty creed known as British-Israelism. I have discussed <a href="/oddbooks/riffert.html">that idiocy previously on this site</a> (and been pathetically abused by one of its proponents for my trouble), but for those not acquainted with it, the core idea is that the inhabitants of the British Isles (and various other white Christian peoples) are the descendants of the <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Lost_Tribes">Ten Lost Tribes of Israel</a>. This idea is clearly racist, though weirdly those who are in favour of it tend not to say so.</p> <p>In Strong's view, therefore, white people, especially those who happen to be British, are favoured by God. On the other hand, "the African has a simple and uncomplicated mind" and not fit to be in charge of anything important.  Thus apartheid, rather than being an imperialistic and oppressive ideology, is not only sensible but in line with the teaching of poor old put-upon Jesus. Those opponents of Rhodesia and South Africa who deny these plain truths must be communistic in their inspiration.</p> <p>If the South African government did have a hand in ensuring her time in South Africa was cosy and reassuring, then they will probably have been disappointed with this book. Strong sincerely attempted to defend apartheid but in doing so she made explicit the sort of loopy thinking that underpinned it. Probably not worth a dentist's bill to them; nor even a straw hat.</p></div> <section class="comment-list"> <h2>Comments</h2> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header"> Leave a comment </div> <div class="card-body"> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderForm" arguments="0=node&amp;1=971&amp;2=comment_node_oddbook&amp;3=comment_node_oddbook" token="PwB6MmuoD7REmo6Dh4JYNQFFeSitjSlMnCJurOGeC6I"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1515" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1316094547"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ian Kearey (not verified)</span> on 15 Sep 2011 - 15:49</span> <a href="/comment/1515#comment-1515" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1515#comment-1515" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Ook. As if South African</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">Ook. As if South African apologists for apartheid weren't enough... and her poems were appalling. One little extra point: Strong's 'weakness for the inconsequential detail' immediately marks her out as what we in the vanity publishing world used to term 'menu memories' - those who, when writing their, inevitably boring, autobiographies managed to miss things like the Blitz but were able to recall absolutely every detail of what they had for every meal each day. When driven to distraction by this, one or two editors would add items to the interminable menu lists to see if anyone else read the book through, such as '... soup, Dover sole, elephant testicles, rice pudding...'. We were never pulled up. Glad to see her publishers realised the error of their ways and became a rock group, too.</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1515&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="_eNXCylT11Vt9XuibTyNcejy3Z55SPUbnGwBntIjItE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-1516" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1316103188"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 15 Sep 2011 - 18:13</span> <a href="/comment/1516#comment-1516" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1516#comment-1516" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Ian, yes, I&#039;ve noticed that</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Ian, yes, I've noticed that phenomenon before but never had a name for it. I will drop it into conversation (and Odd Book reviews) whenever possible.</p></div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1516&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="GnILgqxcBlZn5NDyPiC8EMrxiCwUJzCynpjVmQqJpcE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1515#comment-1515" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Ook. As if South African</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ian Kearey (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1518" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1316115949"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <a rel="nofollow" href="http://home.sprynet.com/~nedbrooks/home.html" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Ned Brooks (not verified)</a> on 15 Sep 2011 - 21:45</span> <a href="/comment/1518#comment-1518" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1518#comment-1518" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">And what an awkward pose for</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">And what an awkward pose for the photo! I suppose someone liked her verse or the magazine would not have continued to publish it. I doubt it was her main source of income. It would be interesting to know just why the publisher thought this book would make money - and whether it did.</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1518&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="YvP6rRypTanW9c11X2_vcxLvB6AWs-stzT6baPnURZI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> </section> Wed, 14 Sep 2011 18:44:44 +0000 Alfred Armstrong 971 at http://oddbooks.com http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/other-side-coin#comments I Was a Cannibal http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/i-was-cannibal <span>I Was a Cannibal</span> <span><span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span></span> <span>27 Aug 2011 - 16:12</span> <div class="oddbook__field-author d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Author(s)<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">Bro. Yhugm, Rev. W. V. Grant</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-publisher d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Publisher<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">Grant&#039;s Faith Clinic</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-file-under d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> File under<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__items"> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/christianity" hreflang="en">Christianity</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/clerics" hreflang="en">clerics</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/eating" hreflang="en">eating</a></span> </div> </div> <div class="oddbook__taxonomy-vocabulary-1 d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> In the section labelled<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/category/odd-books/religious-bent" hreflang="en">The Religious Bent</a></div> </div> <div class="oddbook__body"><p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/cannibal_3.jpg"><img alt="I Was a Cannibal" src="/sites/default/files/files/cannibal_3.jpg" data-entity-uuid="896e9c3b-0759-4012-a7bf-67c95945486f" data-entity-type="file" width="250px" height="386px" class="align-right" /></a>Brother Yhugm's tale is an exciting one. Escaping from a life of primitive savagery, he came to the USA and found Jesus. Who could fail to be moved by such an astonishing and true story?</p> <p>That his name is spelled one way on the cover and a different way inside (Yungm) has surely no bearing on the credibility of the content. It's a funny foreign name and easy to get wrong. A mistake anyone could make, even a man of God. No one should doubt what he says, even when it seems a little bizarre:</p> <blockquote> <p>Clothing is not used in the, place from where I come. We only use hides from animals; tigers, lions, etc. We also get our food from those animals. One eats the raw meat from these animals—not cooked. Eating raw meat is what makes my people very strong. Sometimes the people get very fat. Many cannot run because they are very fat. But they are very strong. They can conquer an animal with their bare hands, be it a lion or a tiger. But it is not all of them that can do this. The majority of them have the ability to run faster than a horse. The older ones are the ones who can do this.</p> </blockquote> <p>Just because no one else has reported the existence of tigers in the jungles of South America is no reason to pooh-pooh what he (via the estimable Reverend Grant) tells us. There <em>must</em> be tigers, otherwise how could the following episode have happened:</p> <blockquote> <p>Once when I was travelling among the mountains, a tiger came at me. But what was really good about this is, we were both babies. The tiger was just a small babe, and I was small also. I was able to conquer him. He only scratched me about three times. I strangled him with all my heart and might. My father was very happy when I got home with it on my shoulders. It was the first time I had ever done that. My father hugged me and carried me all over. He took very good care of me. I was the baby of all. Through that incident, I was encouraged to continue hunting in this way. I would go all by myself among the mountains. I would meet all sorts of animals there. I would also come in front of the plants that would devour people. These plants can eat a lion or a tiger. The plants have leaves spreading around. If you fall in there, it can get a hold of you, and it wraps you and takes you into the middle. Some prongs are stuck in you and the blood is sucked out of you. When you fall in there, only the bones are left. Where you see these plants, you see different kinds of bones of different animals. Someone who didn't know about this would think that some animal had just died there. There are several of these plants.</p> </blockquote> <p>Plants that can eat a lion or tiger! Gosh, this is gripping stuff, isn't it? There's lot of carnivorousness to this part of his story, not all of it very nice:</p> <blockquote> <p>The people where I am from, eat people. They take a white person, tie and bind him, and kill him. Then they cut off his head and start eating him, all of him, until they finish him completely, even the bones.</p> </blockquote> <p>Unhappily, one day while out in the jungle the young Yhugm falls into the hands of evil slavers. He escapes from their boat but finds himself lost out on the ocean, floating on a life-raft. Eventually he lands in El Salvador where after a period hiding out in the mountains he is taken in by a family who teach him Spanish. He starts taking an interest in Christianity and decides he must travel to the US.</p> <p>When he finally reaches the Land of the Free, some tiresome immigration officials want to know who he is and where he has come from. He fobs them off by making constant references to Jesus, and somehow avoids being deported. One can't help feeling that the US border police were a tad lackadaisical in this case. Tut, tut.</p> <p>It is not long before Yhugm comes upon the Pentecostalists and the remarkable Brother Grant. An ignorant person might consider that being a Christian preacher is nothing like as fun as eating white men or strangling tigers, but Yhugm knows otherwise:</p> <blockquote> <p>One night I saw Evangelist, W. V. Grant, from Dallas, Texas, under a heavy anointing of God's spirit. The blind saw; the lame walked; the deaf heard. I thought, "This is a ministry like Jesus had." Scores of people came forward seeking God. They were filled with the Spirit. I said, "This is beautiful. This is what I want and have been hungry for all my life."</p> </blockquote> <p>A happy ending to an extraordinary tale, one I am sure you will agree is equally persuasive throughout.</p></div> <section class="comment-list"> <h2>Comments</h2> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header"> Leave a comment </div> <div class="card-body"> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderForm" arguments="0=node&amp;1=969&amp;2=comment_node_oddbook&amp;3=comment_node_oddbook" token="De8TKq707174eSsvGLwMGlJmXqsB61QN-JqHlSb5zOg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1466" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1314519102"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <a rel="nofollow" href="http://francoistremblay.wordpress.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">FrancoisTremblay (not verified)</a> on 28 Aug 2011 - 10:11</span> <a href="/comment/1466#comment-1466" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1466#comment-1466" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I believe it exactly as much</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">I believe it exactly as much as I believe all the stories of Christians who used to be into heavy metal bands and constantly on drugs.</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1466&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="aA7UKoE2rb4o6qjhSZ22RN22lDmGoCqCZyYD38O_ibA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-1467" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1314534601"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 28 Aug 2011 - 14:30</span> <a href="/comment/1467#comment-1467" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1467#comment-1467" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">My own journey has been in</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>My own journey has been in the opposite direction. I expect to become a cannibal soon.</p></div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1467&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="UNIsaF1QCsvgOfaG_PO5whEUH_RaC-2i11RueIxrNIk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1466#comment-1466" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I believe it exactly as much</a> by <a rel="nofollow" href="http://francoistremblay.wordpress.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">FrancoisTremblay (not verified)</a></p> </footer> </article> </div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1468" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1314555346"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous (not verified)</span> on 28 Aug 2011 - 20:15</span> <a href="/comment/1468#comment-1468" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1468#comment-1468" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">In fact the word Tigre, which</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">In fact the word Tigre, which is standard Spanish for tiger, is used widely in South America to mean a Jaguar. (Not that I beilive the story).</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1468&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="0Bs1Ajpn74X3P5QZMN9Sv0e3BqsBOLUsR7MRw0IWMb4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1476" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1314696867"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous (not verified)</span> on 30 Aug 2011 - 11:34</span> <a href="/comment/1476#comment-1476" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1476#comment-1476" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Grant went to prison for tax</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">Grant went to prison for tax evasion in 1996. As soon as he got out he went right back to convincing the gullible, the desperate, and the senile to fork over their money. I almost wish that hell was real, just for the pleasure of imagining him roasting in it.</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1476&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="EXDWV-G7ssk8rjMEBwOvC6pW9MoEsl1L0v3M8V1mSUQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1853" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1365806829"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Mary Murray (not verified)</span> on 13 Apr 2013 - 00:47</span> <a href="/comment/1853#comment-1853" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1853#comment-1853" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I personally met this man of</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I personally met this man of God Bro.Yhugum when I was a child. My mother carried me to revival in East Praire Mo. He laid hands upon me and prayed for me. I believe his story simply because: in fact there were real cannibalism going on and the details are so explicit. If you had met him like I did you would believe too!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1853&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="_PDaBm6NwNxLal0KXiZz0-aYK2wygz49SaDNa7jUats"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-17801" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1410267315"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chico Dominguez (not verified)</span> on 09 Sep 2014 - 14:55</span> <a href="/comment/17801#comment-17801" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/17801#comment-17801" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I know this man personally. I</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I know this man personally. I am in contact with him , now in the present. If you have any questions please feel free to contact me.<br /> qbanguy@ charter.net.<br /> The story is true. The man who published it is NOT a man of God. He took advantage of Brother Yhugm and used it for his gain. Yhugm does ministry for the Gospel and has helped many people. He is still alive and can be reached if needed.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=17801&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="eW9KBObMNSWJJ3Xdmiz14dWsf7U1ZbY4EdQi4HIYu-M"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1853#comment-1853" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I personally met this man of</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Mary Murray (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-38511" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1438211508"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Cecil Rumsey (not verified)</span> on 30 Jul 2015 - 01:11</span> <a href="/comment/38511#comment-38511" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/38511#comment-38511" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">hey this is brother Cecil</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>hey this is brother Cecil Rumsey. You use to stay with me and my family in west Frankfort Illinois about 30 years ago. I&#039;d like to see you again! You can contact me at 618-923-1403</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=38511&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="jEUOS_-pfiqGAosLccDY3V0u5RJLb8ZyvCyfI9Ey124"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/17801#comment-17801" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I know this man personally. I</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chico Dominguez (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-38512" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1438211519"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Cecil Rumsey (not verified)</span> on 30 Jul 2015 - 01:12</span> <a href="/comment/38512#comment-38512" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/38512#comment-38512" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">hey this is brother Cecil</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>hey this is brother Cecil Rumsey. You use to stay with me and my family in west Frankfort Illinois about 30 years ago. I&#039;d like to see you again! You can contact me at 618-923-1403</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=38512&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="ti7Bcp6INekfcht9NrZaoFjTpgwuXstRsApwfor4OBs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/17801#comment-17801" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I know this man personally. I</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chico Dominguez (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-38513" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1438211519"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Cecil Rumsey (not verified)</span> on 30 Jul 2015 - 01:12</span> <a href="/comment/38513#comment-38513" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/38513#comment-38513" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">hey this is brother Cecil</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>hey this is brother Cecil Rumsey. You use to stay with me and my family in west Frankfort Illinois about 30 years ago. I&#039;d like to see you again! You can contact me at 618-923-1403</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=38513&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="f8rkuRQZL4pieHWd3TgtkJQLA78qlpLJomIUqoBm4Q0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/17801#comment-17801" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I know this man personally. I</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Chico Dominguez (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-37175" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1432413466"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Phyllis Franklin (not verified)</span> on 23 May 2015 - 22:37</span> <a href="/comment/37175#comment-37175" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/37175#comment-37175" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">He Use to stay with My</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>He Use to stay with My Husband and in Indianapolis, In. &quot; I have Pictures to Prove It.&quot; He was A Good Man, And funny about some of our ways. We Pastor Here Still Today. Still have His book too. If anyone knows where He is Today Please let us know. Last Time we saw Him, He was working out of Sweetwater, Tenn. My Husband Got Him several Places to Speak, and Everyone loved Him.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=37175&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="ryZzBnZ6VLENol3d1JLVV6v79xWo50u1JVoMtSzR1Ec"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1853#comment-1853" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I personally met this man of</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Mary Murray (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1929" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1379472584"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous (not verified)</span> on 18 Sep 2013 - 04:49</span> <a href="/comment/1929#comment-1929" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1929#comment-1929" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I know Brother Yhugm</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I know Brother Yhugm personally and have since I&#039;ve been a child. I am now a missionary licensed and ordained. I know his story is true but I tell you how this book by W.V.Grant explains Bro. Yhugm&#039;s story is indeed evagelasticcccc, full of deceit, and utter lies he has had another book out for some time that is legitimate.<br /> I have not read this book only the above in red. Bro Yhugm can not read nor write and didn&#039;t even know this was up here until he asked me to search it for him on internet.<br /> I&#039;ve read some of the above to him and he has said to me &quot;no that is not true I&#039;ve never said that&quot; &quot;There are no plants that big&quot; &quot;i don&#039;t know where in the world they have plants like that&quot; &quot;no only Jaguar, anacondas, big pythons 30ft long, or Boa constrictor; there are no tigers or lions there&quot; &quot;the land is flat no mountains&quot; &quot; I was in the amazon&quot; - in reference to everything above. &quot;No i first went to Assembly Of God church close to Lovelland, Tx with Brother Gibson&quot;</p> <p>ONLY THE BELOW IS ACCURATE out of the above context:<br /> Unhappily, one day while out in the jungle the young Yhugm falls into the hands of evil slavers. He escapes from their boat but finds himself lost out on the ocean, floating on a life-raft. Eventually he lands in El Salvador where after a period hiding out in the mountains he is taken in by a family who teach him Spanish. He starts taking an interest in Christianity and decides he must travel to the US.</p> <p>&quot;No they did not teach me Spanish&quot; &quot;I have a hard time with their language&quot;</p> <p>When he finally reaches the Land of the Free, some tiresome immigration officials want to know who he is and where he has come from.</p> <p>I wish I could write out his story on here it is just tooo much I can only tell his story is real and true but these people are only trying to make themselves look good and as Bro. Yhugm has just said to me &quot;they completely twisted my story&quot;. </p> <p>So I&#039;m sorry you all had to see the above book.<br /> I met this man of God when I was 10yrs and am now 22yrs old and have heard his story many times and none of the above has he ever mentioned not once.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1929&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="8UB5p8FYQ85WboiDeELJIfaQj_wSsaDuI09GxllC_U4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-50221" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1498800594"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Michelle (not verified)</span> on 30 Jun 2017 - 07:29</span> <a href="/comment/50221#comment-50221" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/50221#comment-50221" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">hello anonymous, I would love</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>hello anonymous, I would love to know more about your history with Bro. Yhugm, I am a relative of his researching my family. please contact me if you would. thank you.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=50221&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="BIFkVjc3Gm5MK1W2UyhP9xrfvNu1HOEpCkr4kGl8ujs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1929#comment-1929" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I know Brother Yhugm</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1930" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1379477564"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous (not verified)</span> on 18 Sep 2013 - 06:12</span> <a href="/comment/1930#comment-1930" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1930#comment-1930" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Hey my apologies after</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Hey my apologies after posting the above Brother Yhugm corrected me and he said the immigration sent him to Lydia Patterson Institute and that was the first place he was associated with and they wanted to teach him how to read but because he had no money they had to release him. -In 1965 was when immigration first caught up with him.</p> <p>And he says &quot;i&#039;ve never found Jesus; Jesus found me in the Jungle&quot;</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1930&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="izxb6hN63lAJS5dB4F_nhGXBVUAOLkubXJ1NArCO4kA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-1931" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1379491364"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 18 Sep 2013 - 10:02</span> <a href="/comment/1931#comment-1931" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1931#comment-1931" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Thanks for the enlightening</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Thanks for the enlightening information. It was pretty clear the book was rubbish but good to hear it from (close to) the horse's mouth.</p></div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1931&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="inbc3vuN8IehJpWiNzJXNfvZU-MqmEFH1yJddMDMTuA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1930#comment-1930" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Hey my apologies after</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2222" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1396490115"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">SomethingBetter (not verified)</span> on 03 Apr 2014 - 03:55</span> <a href="/comment/2222#comment-2222" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2222#comment-2222" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">A corrected version of his</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>A corrected version of his Biography can be found at <a href="http://www.yhugm.com">www.yhugm.com</a> and is called, &quot;YHUGM; The Last Survivor of His Tribe.&quot; Yhugm asked someone else to re-write his biography and correct the story so his life story could be recorded with 100% accuracy (such as discussing &quot;jaguars&quot;, not &quot;tigers&quot;, etc). The second book is far more accurate and more interesting and about 3 times longer and goes into more about who he is as a person, not just the sensational stories. Check it out. You can also hear Yhugm tell his story in his own words in a video at that sight as well.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2222&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="BzRLlnFAzrSFABFAnojqRnv_2LRMnx6eYdGbiS8P8Ik"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-38775" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1439236293"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">ray maxberry (not verified)</span> on 10 Aug 2015 - 21:51</span> <a href="/comment/38775#comment-38775" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/38775#comment-38775" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">one of the most holy men of</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>one of the most holy men of God I ever knew, miss you brother yhugm, if you can call brother ray when you can 219 776 2580. brother yhugm stayed with me a lot in my home when he was in northwest Indiana, so great love, so great knowledge of the Bible, praise God for this dear brother</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=38775&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="T_CN7RlLRHVy1xwkLx6nJsjSop2kPQBgYqMAxWq10DI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-48093" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1486375801"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Nicholas (not verified)</span> on 06 Feb 2017 - 11:10</span> <a href="/comment/48093#comment-48093" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/48093#comment-48093" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I live in Tennessee and i met</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I live in Tennessee and i met Yhumg about 2 years ago. To this day i still work with him every day. if you have any questions about his story, or anything you would like me to ask him feel free to contact me at <a href="mailto:Schwnick112@gmail.com">Schwnick112@gmail.com</a>... I would be glad to ask him!!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=48093&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="HOPrOQ0IV6IoJSHVctA6kUiOpe6Tsg_ygKOxtin-M0A"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-50219" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1498800402"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Michelle (not verified)</span> on 30 Jun 2017 - 07:26</span> <a href="/comment/50219#comment-50219" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/50219#comment-50219" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Nicholas, I would love to</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Nicholas, I would love to speak more with you regarding Yhugm, please contact me<br /> Thank you.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=50219&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="P6xWlMQOQ0AM1nrRmg9fTuxMX5o-Om_uOdTV2oE3aiI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/48093#comment-48093" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I live in Tennessee and i met</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Nicholas (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-49700" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1496252845"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Rev. Anony Moose (not verified)</span> on 31 May 2017 - 19:47</span> <a href="/comment/49700#comment-49700" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/49700#comment-49700" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I have actually met Yhumg. I</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I have actually met Yhumg. I confess that while he preached good I was not impressed with him because of all of the Word of Knowledges he gave out. Sometimes he would tell people that they had a heart problem. And when they act hesitant he would say something like, &quot;this is for something down the road!&quot;<br /> I am not impressed with things like that. If God reveals some one has a heart problem they should be having a heart problem and that now! I am not impressed with these &quot;down the road&quot; people and more than severily question them!<br /> So I am not fan of Yhumg. Though I have met him and heard him preach so many years ago somewhere in this great nation(the USA)!<br /> Anyway for the person who says that W. V. Grant went to prison in 1996. It is not the same W. V. Grant who wrote that book in 1960. The one who wrote the book in 1960 is the father of the one who went to prison. The one who wrote the book passed away in 1983!<br /> About Hell. It is real and the vast majority of the world is going there(Matt.7:13&amp;14; Mark 9:43-48; Luke 16:19-31; Rev. 21:8). You need to repent of your sins(Luke 13:1-5; Acts 3:19; Acts 17:30) and recieve Jesus as Savior and Lord today(John 1:12; John 3:16; Rev.3:20; Rom.10:9&amp;10) today and stop letting hypocrites stand in your way. For read all of Matt.23! The hypocrites will surely be in Hell too!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=49700&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="7RV5eCxfasIHSqp431dp4yVhgoWPtoySsQDaPUxKxII"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-50220" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1498800496"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Michelle (not verified)</span> on 30 Jun 2017 - 07:28</span> <a href="/comment/50220#comment-50220" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/50220#comment-50220" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">when/where is the last time</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>when/where is the last time you heard him preach, I am interested in observing his message.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=50220&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="-wPVFaVNDlIZOqfnZYWduw2zPqF8kk9gXL0raqAzk5g"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/49700#comment-49700" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I have actually met Yhumg. I</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Rev. Anony Moose (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-50516" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1500586571"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Rev. Anony Moose (not verified)</span> on 20 Jul 2017 - 23:36</span> <a href="/comment/50516#comment-50516" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/50516#comment-50516" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">It has been years since I</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>It has been years since I have heard him preach. And personally I am not interested in hearing him again because of the very things that I observed while listening to him.<br /> My MAIN reason for even saying anything about him was because of what was being said about evangelist W. V. Grant and may I add SR. While never meeting Bro. Grant(and I unapologetically call him brother!) I do know at least one if not more who have.<br /> I asked a certain preacher if he still has a copy of the book &quot;I WAS A CANNIBAL.&quot; I looked through his library with full permission and full understanding that I could have it if I found it. No success. I remember when this pastor friend of mine did have it but it was way back around 1987 or 88!<br /> I had rather not say what exact year I heard him preach due to the fact he may remember me! If I didn&#039;t say earlier in the other writings I way say hear. But I will say it was before 1987!<br /> Back to the preacher who owned the book. He KNEW the late W. V. Grant Sr. And yes he speaks well of him and thought he was a good man. And the way I understand pretty well to the end. I don&#039;t like people slandering good men! Especially when they are not around to defend themselves!<br /> It was his son that went to prison! Not the dad! I have been in the ministry for over 30 years and have seen good men have sons who were devils! So please don&#039;t accuse the late W. V. Grant of being in prison for tax evasion when IT WAS TOTALLY 100% impossible!<br /> He went to Heaven in 1983! It is impossible for a man dead to do a crime!<br /> Concerning any troubles that he may have had with Yhumg. I have been in the ministry long enough to see troubles between preachers who were otherwise good men. Though from what I know of the Dad Grant and what I know of Yhumg I confess I will side with the late W. V. Grant first!<br /> Be as it may we are in an hour of deception(read all of Matt.24, Mark 13, and Luke 21. Plus read II Tim.3:1-4:5). Hey I am not above being deceived myself(see I Cor.10:12; Gal.6:1&amp;2). I remember when the late John Todd came out with those stories about being a member of the Illuminati Council of 13 and the various attacks on so-called Christian leaders I actually believed him. That is until some people found out some of the stuff that he had lied about! And it became obvious he was false.<br /> I understand there are some people who still think John Todd was for real to this date!<br /> I am still very skeptical of Yhumg. And let&#039;s face it. Even if his story of being saved out of cannibalism turns out to be true. I have seen men who started out real good fall away(I am extremely anti-eternal securitist!) Pride(Prov.16:18&amp;19; Dan.4; Luke 18:9-14), love of money(Luke 12:13-21; I Tim.6:10) and many other things have caused men to fall away.<br /> Let me say this. Until two days ago I was actually defending a certain preacher which I choose not to name. I had heard some horrible accusations against him. I really believed he was 100% innocent. But no more!<br /> If you want to hear Yhumg that is between you and God. Maybe he&#039;ll tell &quot;about those people with tongues forty foot long!&quot; Who knows. Maybe he will tell you that you have some disease that you don&#039;t have! Maybe he will tell you about a friend or loved one who isn&#039;t saved needs to be delivered from alcohol(though they never have touched a drop of it in their lives!)<br /> Maybe I should go hear him! Maybe he will tell me that my wife is going to be healed! WOW! That would be something! I am not married right now even! Maybe when he says, &quot;it is for something down the road&quot; I ought to rejoice! For he sees me getting married again!<br /> Well whether he was really ever a cannibal or not is not my concern though I am still skeptical of that! I still until I get further proof otherwise plan to stick with my assumption that he was called &quot;Yhumg&quot; because of the word &quot;yum&quot;! However even if proved true is not going to change my mind!<br /> Paul warned the Galatians about they, &quot;did run well but who hindered you that ye should not obey the truth.&quot;(Gal.5:7)!<br /> Well it is your choose and do whatever you want. If you want to see and hear Yhumg preach that is your business. I used to go around checking different preachers out. And while I still do I have pretty well learned at my age if there is enough reason for me to doubt that person whether because of moral issues or false doctrine I pretty well stay away. I got more important things to accomplish!<br /> This IS CLEARLY MY LAST POST AND I REFUSE TO ANSWER ANY OTHER QUESTIONS! Thank you!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=50516&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="z9QyLN_EVcWVqW1fXIByVKNW1dXyj2h2cAdfbac8Cls"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/50220#comment-50220" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">when/where is the last time</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Michelle (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div></div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-49740" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1496407975"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Rev. Anony Moose (not verified)</span> on 02 Jun 2017 - 14:52</span> <a href="/comment/49740#comment-49740" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/49740#comment-49740" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">One last comment. To those</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>One last comment. To those who may be critical or wonder why I am so severe on Yhumg&#039;s words of knowledge as well as others! First let me explain that I STRONGLY believe in all nine gifts of the Spirit for the Church as found in 1 Cor.12-14 for this day and age!<br /> I have severe trouble with Yhumg or anyone else claiming that God showed him you have a heart condition and you don&#039;t! And then turn around and says, &quot;it may be for something down the road&quot; or it is for something down the road&quot; I have some severe troubles!<br /> For one we are commanded in 1 Thess.5:19-22 to &quot;prove all things!&quot;. In 1 Cor.14:29 we are to let someone judge! I John 4:1-3 we are to try the spirits.<br /> In Deut.18:18-22 a prophets words must come to pass! If it doesn&#039;t it is NOT of God! For God doesn&#039;t lie(Num.23:19), God CANNOT lie(Titus 1:2), and it is impossible for God to lie(Heb.6:18)!<br /> And Yhumg isn&#039;t the only one to have done this. There was a man on radio once with a call-in broadcast who was praying with a lady about her unsavex husband and started to pray for his drinking problem! The lady interrupted and said, &quot; My husband doesn&#039;t have a drinking problem!&quot;. To which the man replied, &quot;Oh it is for something down the road!&quot;<br /> Well Yhumg might label me one of those people who have &quot;a tongue 40 foot long!&quot;. By the way that was one of the things I actually liked about his preaching by the way!<br /> I won&#039;t point out any of my other troubles with Yhumg. The only other I will ask is ,&quot; is Yhumg his real name or is it a name some others gave him?&quot;.<br /> I have wondered because if you take the h and g out of his name you get &quot;Yum&quot; which to me sounds like someone&#039;s sick sense of humor to name a one-time cannibal!<br /> This will be my FINAL posting for this spot. So if anyone has any comments, criticisms, or questions I won&#039;t be answering them. I have more important things to be concerned with than Yhumg!</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=49740&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="OQKBMXn6UICFOoph3bZSUpnhud4vAg1NGsE9UWvrAXk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-50371" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1499830515"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Michelle (not verified)</span> on 12 Jul 2017 - 05:35</span> <a href="/comment/50371#comment-50371" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/50371#comment-50371" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">His Story is real.(been</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>His Story is real.(been documented and researched) His name IS really Yhugm. (NOT given to him by others)</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=50371&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="m38XfyekNJ3D8LEOmkiWqxsC_GD_VMXcpIyTVpEAVm0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-55250" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1532237383"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Bob Bateman (not verified)</span> on 22 Jul 2018 - 07:29</span> <a href="/comment/55250#comment-55250" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/55250#comment-55250" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I met Brother Yhugm in Los</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I met Brother Yhugm in Los Angeles in 1968 when he came to speak to Spirit-filled Youth in Monteray Park. I have this same old book you are offering. My fondest memory of this remarkable man was when I took him to DISNEYLAND there! I remember we were walking down that Main Street when turned to Brother Yhugm and asked him, &quot;Brother Yhugm, how do you like Disneyland?&quot; and he said to me, &quot;Very nice, Brother Bob&quot;! I would like to know if he is still living in 2018 -- or the date he died. Oh praise Jesus! What a POWERFUL testimony he had! I have one also. Jesus can do even the impossible! I am His loving singer for 54 years as of November 1, 2018. I plan to travel the world and sing for our Lord! Oh, I have an opera-like voice, tenor, with the Baptism in the Holy Ghost! You can call me: 208-342-4889. Love, Brother Bob</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=55250&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="5d-DALQSzZzcAYGQXQ8Z8d5N8Va-dXPBfXcETdmyhB4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-59443" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1557469262"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jamie guzman (not verified)</span> on 10 May 2019 - 08:21</span> <a href="/comment/59443#comment-59443" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/59443#comment-59443" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">how much is the book worth</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>how much is the book worth</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=59443&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="8t2-1b1aMM9SO1z2A5pF3-KrH0u_SlprH2AJa9oj8bE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/55250#comment-55250" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I met Brother Yhugm in Los</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Bob Bateman (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-59446" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1557475817"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 10 May 2019 - 10:10</span> <a href="/comment/59446#comment-59446" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/59446#comment-59446" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Hi Jamie,</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Hi Jamie,</p> <p>It's hard to say as it's quite uncommon and not widely collected either so the market hasn't established a price. If you want to sell a copy, put it on ebay and see what you get. Or you might try asking my friend Donna Kossy at <a href="https://www.etsy.com/shop/BookHappyBooks">Book Happy Books</a> as she deals in similar items.</p> <p>Cheers, Alfred</p></div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=59446&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="I5fhtRMRIGfGkYe2D0nGnYI7eTsrw5wgExgpSxLIxTQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/59443#comment-59443" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">how much is the book worth</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jamie guzman (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div></div> </section> Sat, 27 Aug 2011 14:12:19 +0000 Alfred Armstrong 969 at http://oddbooks.com Man, Minerals and Masters http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/man-minerals-and-masters <span>Man, Minerals and Masters</span> <span><span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span></span> <span>06 Jun 2010 - 16:52</span> <div class="oddbook__field-author d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Author(s)<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">Charles W Littlefield, M. D.</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-publisher d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Publisher<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">De Vorss</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-pubdate d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Edition / Year<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">1937</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-file-under d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> File under<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__items"> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/doctors" hreflang="en">doctors</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/christianity" hreflang="en">Christianity</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/seeing-things" hreflang="en">seeing things</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/revelations" hreflang="en">revelations</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/delightful-illustrations" hreflang="en">delightful illustrations</a></span> </div> </div> <div class="oddbook__taxonomy-vocabulary-1 d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> In the section labelled<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/category/odd-books/doctors-strange" hreflang="en">Doctors Strange</a></div> </div> <div class="oddbook__body"><p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/mmm1.jpg"><img alt="MMM by Charles W Littlefield" height="302" src="/sites/default/files/files/mmm1.jpg" data-entity-uuid="870b4b60-d080-41e2-bd11-5f97386805cd" data-entity-type="file" class="align-right align-right" width="200" /></a></p> <blockquote> <p>"All illustrations in this book are photographs of MENTAL PICTURES"</p> </blockquote> <p>As a boy, Charles Littlefield ("author, scientist, physician") had a wounded foot miraculously healed when a man called George Washburn recited a "certain passage of scripture, with some substitutions". This experience led Littlefield in adult life to investigate how such charms did their work.</p> <p>Drawing on the (uncredited) work of the quack <a href="http://www.ultramedicals.com/schuessler.htm">Schuessler</a>, Littlefield's researches gave him the idea that mineral salts in the body could respond to mental transmissions. They would do so by forming images of mystical import (the "mental pictures" mentioned above), visible through the microscope, which could not merely stop bleedings but were actually the root of life.</p> <blockquote> <p>"... while making some experiments with the twelve mineral salts of the blood, endeavouring to discover the relation between mental states and those salts that produce clotting in case of hemorrhage, a living octopus was produced."</p> </blockquote> <p>The discovery of these strange microscopic phenomena might have made an interesting account in itself, but Littlefield goes much further. At first, the images he saw were somewhat limited in nature, coming simply from his own experience or the Bible:</p> <blockquote> <p>... the mental images were either those of of [the writer's] own creation such as the "fowl" and the "overshot water-wheel saw-mill", or those taken from The Book, such as "the Holy Spirit in Creation" and "Mount Zion".</p> </blockquote> <p>But then, he says, he experienced a series of visions in which he was initiated into occult secrets by no less a trio of personages than "the three Wise Men who visited the new-born King of the Jews in Bethlehem of Judea". This is only fitting for one who is, as he immodestly implies in another passage, "a true prophet or seer", just like those of the Old Testament.</p> <p>These three Masters who initiated him are simultaneously themselves Old Testament figures. In time-honoured mystical tradition, Littlefield does not let the bounds of time and space constrain his visionary purpose. The first of the three is Ezekiel, who admits to being rather older than he looks, as he says of himself:</p> <blockquote> <p>"The continent of Atlantis was the place of my last manifestation in the flesh. This was centuries before the building of the Great Pyramid. The language my people spoke was Zansar, very similar indeed to our present English, It was then a universal language, and as such had nothing in common with any modern dialect."</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/mmm-master1.jpg"><img alt="The First Master" height="458" src="/sites/default/files/files/mmm-master1.jpg" data-entity-uuid="95b45e7a-e902-4fd7-8eca-d3b774c5c75d" data-entity-type="file" width="600" /></a></p> <p>The second master was Enoch, who looks as though he was suffering from a bad cold in Littlefield's picture.</p> <blockquote> <p>He was probably six feet tall and well proportioned. He wore a veil. Anyone might mistake him for a present-day banker, a prosperous merchant or a captain of industry.</p> </blockquote> <p>(If they overlooked the veil, presumably.)</p> <p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/mmm-master2.jpg"><img alt="The second Master" height="360" src="/sites/default/files/files/mmm-master2.jpg" data-entity-uuid="4467d486-0b1b-49b5-a725-e9e5ba28fcd6" data-entity-type="file" width="600" /></a></p> <p>The third was Melchizedek, who being "not less than eight feet tall" would make a desirable addition to any basketball team. He also seems a little leaky:</p> <blockquote> <p>While studying this third Master the writer noticed a small pool of clear water gather near where he stood.</p> </blockquote> <p>Melchizedek is in fact a sort of walking oasis, as well as being exceptionally ancient:</p> <blockquote> <p>"My first breath was at midnight at the time now known as the Vernal Equinox, March 21, 53,770 years B. C. It was on this date that the lines were laid upon the earth for the foundation of the Great Pyramid of Gizeh."</p> </blockquote> <p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/mmm-master3.jpg"><img alt="The third Master" height="486" src="/sites/default/files/files/mmm-master3.jpg" data-entity-uuid="3fc3ba35-63e1-442d-a0cc-5ac318bda918" data-entity-type="file" width="600" /></a></p> <p> The three Masters pass on their revelations in a style that will be familiar to students of crank literature, with references to the Kabbalah, Yoga and astrology all mixed together in an indigestible gumbo, of which this example is typical:</p> <blockquote> <p>"We shall now illustrate how the tabulated system of Higher Hieroglyphics, as presented in the first initiation in Tibet aids us in the development of superconsciousness in relation to the constant renewal of the body," the Master resumed, "and the limiting of extreme old age within the range of the laws of nutrition."</p> </blockquote> <p>This is the prelude to a bewildering account of how numerology enables the Masters to live so long, which is too boring to reproduce here. But this magic is not limited in its application to the longevity of superior beings, as Littlefield shows in a chapter called "Practical Instruction", in which he recounts the charming story of how a woman who wanted a piano achieved her desire by the simple expedient of reciting the powerful mantra "I have a lovely brown piano" over and over, until she was given one by a total stranger.</p> <p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/mmm-samples_0.jpg"><img alt="The Eye of God + The Astral Ray" height="1070" src="/sites/default/files/files/mmm-samples_0.jpg" data-entity-uuid="306081b8-fa36-49fe-b32b-79f7707e36b4" data-entity-type="file" width="597" /></a></p> <p>It is a credit to Littlefield's eclectic crackpottery that this book could have been filed under several of the different sections of this site. If he had been writing a few decades later I am sure he'd have managed to incorporate UFOs into the mix, too. Needless to say, despite the clear signs of psychosis in his writings and the unconvincing character of his microscope photographs, there are still <a href="http://www.borderlands.com/ethericphysics.htm">some</a> today who cite him as a pioneer.</p></div> <section class="comment-list"> <h2>Comments</h2> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header"> Leave a comment </div> <div class="card-body"> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderForm" arguments="0=node&amp;1=961&amp;2=comment_node_oddbook&amp;3=comment_node_oddbook" token="F9lv8hq8qVhIrqPVzJTh3tM_8UuK65Pot_T_K3_J8kg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-847" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1275839051"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Aria (not verified)</span> on 06 Jun 2010 - 17:44</span> <a href="/comment/847#comment-847" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/847#comment-847" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">God&#039;s eye looks a bit</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">God's eye looks a bit bloodshot, doesn't it?</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=847&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="SPfMsbiOvUE3ap8ng_oHW4PXZaAax0JBRbEhjgS8EAs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-848" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1275839456"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">anonymous (not verified)</span> on 06 Jun 2010 - 17:50</span> <a href="/comment/848#comment-848" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/848#comment-848" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I have seen the same things</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">I have seen the same things without a microscope. No wait, it was done with LSD.</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=848&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="62pKPYZE5xNbD4kKOe9yLQk93zT05IrCsVnWn-WPsF0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-849" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1275841474"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Professor Frink (not verified)</span> on 06 Jun 2010 - 18:24</span> <a href="/comment/849#comment-849" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/849#comment-849" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Hey, God&#039;s got a lot to keep</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">Hey, God's got a lot to keep his eye on. You'd be a little bleary, too.</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=849&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="h2kiinIctZU3KTcPeywsQ1cNn2dspd7b2bzcPaLOFH8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-850" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1275847012"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Aria (not verified)</span> on 06 Jun 2010 - 19:56</span> <a href="/comment/850#comment-850" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/850#comment-850" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I love the word</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">I love the word "crackpottery." I plan on throwing it into as many conversations as I possibly can. Thank you again, Mr. Armstrong.</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=850&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="tC25esN7RV23fN79OU-5exTjPnYKPrCAu8KYAgcNdNA"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-851" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1275849661"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <a rel="nofollow" href="http://home.sprynet.com/~nedbrooks/home.html" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Cuyler Brooks (not verified)</a> on 06 Jun 2010 - 20:41</span> <a href="/comment/851#comment-851" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/851#comment-851" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">A nice title for the</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">A nice title for the loony-book collector- or the loony book-collector! I wonder if the publisher made any money on it.</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=851&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="DKoTL-BSU0zdbECiVBTKxQegx5rQIojymKdltCilcuU"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-854" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1275929856"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Psychopompous (not verified)</span> on 07 Jun 2010 - 18:57</span> <a href="/comment/854#comment-854" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/854#comment-854" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Thank you sir! I was having</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">Thank you sir! I was having a terrible morning until I read of this most wondrously fetid book. A good laugh is sometimes better than a cup of coffee.</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=854&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="P3X6hUSb_zIqyscLPMashtZbFeLFuA22l-GciBa508I"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1120" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1291188421"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">pseudonym (not verified)</span> on 01 Dec 2010 - 08:27</span> <a href="/comment/1120#comment-1120" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1120#comment-1120" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">If only Oprah had been around</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">If only Oprah had been around when he wrote this he could have been a minor celebrity and millionaire</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1120&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="dZWfVrQ7HSED6SE0uwZ0wPX6F69XSHjk8W1aV36wfeY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1299" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1301982070"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Lo Sconosciuto (not verified)</span> on 05 Apr 2011 - 07:41</span> <a href="/comment/1299#comment-1299" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1299#comment-1299" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Remarkable that the tongue we</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">Remarkable that the tongue we call English was <i>not</i> a mongrel assemblage pasted together from scraps of French, Latin, German, et al., but was in fact a noble universal language "and as such had nothing in common with any modern dialect." I guess that's the ultimate middle finger to those damnable Chinese, with their screeching speech and goofy picture language. I'm sure in in Atlantis they had some expounding on the glories of divination in sheep's entrails or casting the bones to make a decision.</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1299&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="Jh0l5i2uemYvWJbgJUkchsTJNIYYQkJECNokUcYsE4o"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1955" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1381403643"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <a rel="nofollow" href="http://francoistremblay.wordpress.com/" lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">FrancoisTremblay (not verified)</a> on 10 Oct 2013 - 13:14</span> <a href="/comment/1955#comment-1955" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1955#comment-1955" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Is it just me, or is there a</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Is it just me, or is there a whole human face inside of the eye? That&#039;s pretty amazing.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1955&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="fmrVezh-TScQDOOWgOFkgnz4-bGpWinFwP8d00FtDIs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2178" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1393372409"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">moleosophy.org (not verified)</span> on 26 Feb 2014 - 00:53</span> <a href="/comment/2178#comment-2178" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2178#comment-2178" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">What exactly do you mean by</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>What exactly do you mean by saying that there are &quot;clear signs of psychosis in these writings&quot;?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2178&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="qlNL5Q8cNrYfSWvFkUpjcDzJyK1nNKPWLryiLv_b8PE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-2179" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1393407658"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 26 Feb 2014 - 10:40</span> <a href="/comment/2179#comment-2179" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2179#comment-2179" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">It&#039;s clear enough what I mean</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>It's clear enough what I mean, I think. Feel free to disagree if you wish. </p></div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2179&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="MBd7xdETiwrzg2X3mFBRgYcdGCPfnrChUK_0rU3hDyY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/2178#comment-2178" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">What exactly do you mean by</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">moleosophy.org (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2183" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1393492334"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">moleosophy.org (not verified)</span> on 27 Feb 2014 - 10:12</span> <a href="/comment/2183#comment-2183" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2183#comment-2183" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">It&#039;s fairly clear, I wasn&#039;t</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>It&#039;s fairly clear, I wasn&#039;t serious. By the way, Martin Gardner dedicates about two pages in his classic &quot;Fads and Fallacies in the Name of Science&quot; to Littlefield. And to the point: In the preface of his earlier book &quot;The Beginning and Way of Life&quot;, Littlefield extends his thanks to Michael Faraday, St. Paul and St. John for dictating portions of the book from the spirit world. </p> <p>Curiously enough, it seems that Littlefield practiced as a physician and surgeon until his death.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2183&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="O-IQaPX-kaok84IrOq97LsqGh9jFptyrPq2OJ4pxP80"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/2179#comment-2179" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">It&#039;s clear enough what I mean</a> by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span></p> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-2184" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1393492820"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 27 Feb 2014 - 10:20</span> <a href="/comment/2184#comment-2184" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2184#comment-2184" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Having had actual flat</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Having had actual flat-earthers, Anglo-Israelites, and other defenders of mumbo-jumbo comment on here, my default position is to assume everyone is nuts. Sorry!</p> <p>I have Fads and Fallacies but I kast read it so long ago that I can't recall the Littlefield stuff, but it's good to know one of the greats got there first.  </p></div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2184&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="N5P3knkSi5S2SDJQ0pHQWS_KrwEEG943TIromN0V32s"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/2183#comment-2183" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">It&#039;s fairly clear, I wasn&#039;t</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">moleosophy.org (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div></div></div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2186" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1393528762"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">moleosophy.org (not verified)</span> on 27 Feb 2014 - 20:19</span> <a href="/comment/2186#comment-2186" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2186#comment-2186" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I&#039;m sorry for you that you</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I&#039;m sorry for you that you had to put up with Anglo-Israelites. But actual flat-earthers: sheer envy. Seriously.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2186&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="4xYHIDzw4-aE3iCahhXhihyTCdvC6LpgUqdPg-qkhm4"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-2187" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1393531086"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 27 Feb 2014 - 20:58</span> <a href="/comment/2187#comment-2187" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2187#comment-2187" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">They are to be found here:</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>They are to be found here: http://oddbooks.co.uk/oddbooks/westfield.html</p></div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2187&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="hCBqo-qJu3UBsIdErody9TX34RctVSeut8ibJWxtRQM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/2186#comment-2186" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I&#039;m sorry for you that you</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">moleosophy.org (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-2188" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1393541985"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">moleosophy.org (not verified)</span> on 27 Feb 2014 - 23:59</span> <a href="/comment/2188#comment-2188" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/2188#comment-2188" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Priceless. Thanks.</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Priceless. Thanks.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=2188&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="dgn3UcxFIoR-L_ZAai75Ee-cfraE5BLImOyMjjubrIs"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/2187#comment-2187" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">They are to be found here:</a> by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span></p> </footer> </article> </div></div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-16181" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1409391601"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Juraj (not verified)</span> on 30 Aug 2014 - 11:40</span> <a href="/comment/16181#comment-16181" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/16181#comment-16181" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">To the author: I don&#039;t get</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>To the author: I don&#039;t get the point. Seriously. If you believe in things like astral world, not-incarnated &quot;masters&quot;, prophecies, visions, etc, then you would need to criticise the inner inconsistency, or factual error, or methodological problems, if there are any. If you are a convinced materialist and consider all of the above-mentioned generally as bullshit, then it should be enough to categorize the book as esoteric nonsense without getting into details and pretending that you are giving some arguments. Actually you are giving none. You are just mentioning or quoting, in an ironic style, statements of the book, without really looking closer at any of them, because, of course, it is all bullshit, and so you just come to conclusion that there had to be a psychosis in control.</p> <p>Let us be for a while open-minded and consider all of the above mentioned as possible, just to enable us to really provide some valid criticism. What you be your arguments then?</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=16181&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="D-FKFxA1laELTKNlEbyZIau2cBxNlk5PZiAyd-HAiOc"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-16185" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1409393024"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 30 Aug 2014 - 12:03</span> <a href="/comment/16185#comment-16185" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/16185#comment-16185" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Does there have to be a point</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">Does there have to be a point, other than this book being plainly ridiculous? You may disagree but that's what I think of it. I don't have to make a case for my opinion if I choose not to. In this instance I think the extracts make the case for me. If you don't think they do, that's fine, but you won't prove the contrary by handwaving and bluster.</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=16185&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="loTM2fHU2F51aQDHMPV3GkMVR5e2hcNdLBtTbwsfUTM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/16181#comment-16181" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">To the author: I don&#039;t get</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Juraj (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-16932" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1409826737"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">FrancoisTremblay (not verified)</span> on 04 Sep 2014 - 12:32</span> <a href="/comment/16932#comment-16932" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/16932#comment-16932" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">This site exists for</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>This site exists for entertainment purposes. You are either oblivious to that fact or you&#039;ve decided it was irrelevant to your criticism. </p> <p>And if you know we think it&#039;s bullshit, then why are you even bothering to contact us? What exactly is the point of your message? Do you really think we&#039;ll go &quot;hmmm hey maybe he&#039;s right and I should consider that all my most cherished beliefs could be wrong...&quot; If you do, then you understand nothing about human psychology.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=16932&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="S4bDVXPrvtxncBWjFamHrLp2vxag3ApPCCxC-fvRM1I"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/16181#comment-16181" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">To the author: I don&#039;t get</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Juraj (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-47396" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1475320920"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">RGalassini (not verified)</span> on 01 Oct 2016 - 13:22</span> <a href="/comment/47396#comment-47396" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/47396#comment-47396" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">The incident which initiated</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>The incident which initiated Littlefield&#039;s curiosity in the first place was not an isolated event. I have heard very similar &quot;healing tales&quot; and anecdotes from people roughly from the same era and area as Littlefield, the American Midwest. The versions of the stories I was told didn&#039;t have any esoteric explanations, just simple inexplicable amazement and acceptance that miracles do happen.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=47396&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="NP6GBnfeD3w4K6D8ULM4J2qn8tvkiOtfdX85aXwdiTI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-65338" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1573068443"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Jason (not verified)</span> on 06 Nov 2019 - 20:27</span> <a href="/comment/65338#comment-65338" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/65338#comment-65338" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">My spirit has been telescoped</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>My spirit has been telescoped by this very work. I am the telepathic missionary and this telepasketch business is legitimate.<br /> 5th master</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=65338&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="sWiIHjwdzeYL5gsVZEOiSyGouWeUxzlVVxq01iOtLuE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> </section> Sun, 06 Jun 2010 14:52:23 +0000 Alfred Armstrong 961 at http://oddbooks.com Supernatural Visions of the Madonna (1981 to 1991) London http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/supernatural-visions-madonna-1981-1991-london <span>Supernatural Visions of the Madonna (1981 to 1991) London</span> <span><span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span></span> <span>02 May 2009 - 18:16</span> <div class="oddbook__field-author d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Author(s)<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">Sofia Marie Gabriel (Sister Marie)</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-publisher d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Publisher<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">The Author</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-pubdate d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Edition / Year<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">1993</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-file-under d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> File under<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__items"> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/seeing-things" hreflang="en">seeing things</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/christianity" hreflang="en">Christianity</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/delightful-illustrations" hreflang="en">delightful illustrations</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/inaccurately-predicting-things" hreflang="en">inaccurately predicting things</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/poetry" hreflang="en">poetry</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/conspiracy" hreflang="en">conspiracy</a></span> </div> </div> <div class="oddbook__taxonomy-vocabulary-1 d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> In the section labelled<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/category/odd-books/religious-bent" hreflang="en">The Religious Bent</a></div> </div> <div class="oddbook__body"><p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/images/oddbooks/madonna1.jpg"><img alt="Supernatural Visions" data-entity-type="file" data-entity-uuid="c89cfded-1743-4720-957e-4d00f96c118e" height="279" src="/sites/default/files/files/images/oddbooks/madonna1.jpg" width="200" class="align-right" /></a>Those of you who read UK national newspapers in the early 1990s may remember the strange full-page adverts that appeared from time to time in the name of someone called Sister Marie, prophesying doom and cataclysm if its author's words were not heeded. Sister Marie claimed to have successfully predicted in 1986 that Halley's comet would explode in 1991 (which <a href="http://adsabs.harvard.edu/full/1991MNRAS.251P..26H">it did</a>), and that global extinction would occur if pornography was not banned immediately (which it didn't).</p> <p>As part of her campaign against worldly evils, Sister Marie (alias Sophia Marie Gabriel, alias Zoe Richmond) also published this enormous, copiously illustrated book documenting her visions and her attempts to publicise them. Its nearly 800 magazine-size glossy pages are filled with photographs, diatribes (all in uppercase) and reproductions of letters from the hard-pressed representatives of notables politely thanking her for her correspondence. She also includes much material relating to a series of disputes with the authorities, most notably her disturbing accusation that NHS staff deliberately starved her father to death while he was under their care in hospital.</p> <p>According to her own account, Sister Marie was born Zofia Sagatis in 1941 in Poland. From there her family fled the war, eventually reaching the UK in 1946. At the age of 9 she says she was greatly injured in a road accident which left her with what she calls a heart problem. At 14 she became a "mystic", after, as she puts it, "falling in love with God after a divine romance in the convent chapel" at her Catholic school in Leicester. Here's another passage which describes events closer in time to this publication:</p> <blockquote> <p>THE VIRGIN MADONNA BEGAN TRANSMITTING IMPORTANT MESSAGES TO A MYSTIC IN LONDON SINCE 1981 SHE COMMANDED SOFIA MARIE GABRIEL TO RECORD ALL THE MESSAGES IN A WRITTEN DOCUMENT WHICH WAS THEN DISTRIBUTED TO ALL THE MAIN EMBASSIES AND NATIONAL NEWSPAPERS IN LONDON SINCE 1982. <a href="/sites/default/files/files/images/oddbooks/madonna3.jpg"><img alt="Halley's Comet" data-entity-type="file" data-entity-uuid="ed382e26-83ff-47bb-8b4d-70ad70c60137" height="273" src="/sites/default/files/files/images/oddbooks/madonna3.jpg" width="200" class="align-right" /></a>SOFIA MARIE GABRIEL IS A PLAIN-CLOTHES, RELIGIOUS SISTER, OR TERTIARY CARMELITE HER RELIGIOUS NAME IS SISTER MARIE GABRIEL. SHE LEADS THE LIFE Of A CONTEMPLATIVE SISTER, PRIVATELY. AT HOME, OUTSIDE THE CONVENT WALLS. THE ESSENCE OF THE VIRGIN MADONNA'S SERIOUS MESSAGE IS AS FOLLOWS; IT DEALS WITH GOD'S FINAL ULTIMATUM TO BRITAIN, EUROPE, USA AND ALL NATIONS! VIZ, COUNTRIES MUST DRASTICALLY AND IMMEDIATELY REDUCE ALL CRIME BY 85% AND DESTROY ALL TRACES OF PORNOGRAPHY OR MANKIND WILL FACE GLOBAL EXTINCTION BY A COSMIC COLLISION WITH A GIGANTIC FIREBALL ASTEROID VERY SOON. THE EXPLOSION AND ERUPTION OF HALEY'S COMET IS THE WARNING SIGN PRECEDING THE COSMIC PENALTY. THE VIRGIN MADONNA SAID GOD WILL WIPE OUT MANKIND ON ACCOUNT OF THE GROSS OBSCENITY OF WOMEN TODAY. THE VIRGIN MADONNA ORDERED SOFIA, A RELIGIOUS MYSTIC, TO BE HER MESSENGER, LIKE THE POPE JOHN PAUL II, SHE COMES FROM POLAND. SOFIA. KNOWN AS SISTER MARIE GABRIEL, WENT TO LOURDES TO THE GREAT HEALING SHRINE OF THE MADONNA IN FRANCE AND THERE THE VIRGIN MARY INSTRUCTED HER TO BE GOD'S MESSENGER AND TO MAKE KNOWN HIS FINAL MESSAGE TO ALL NATIONS AND GOVERNMENTS AT TOP SPEED. <a href="/sites/default/files/files/images/oddbooks/madonna4_0.jpg"><img alt="Sister Marie" data-entity-type="file" data-entity-uuid="6ee079c1-21bd-483c-8ef9-74c8b5cb45ad" height="272" src="/sites/default/files/files/images/oddbooks/madonna4_0.jpg" width="200" class="align-right" /></a>FOR OVER TEN YEARS SISTER MARIE HAS BEEN LIVING HIGH UP IN A TOWER BLOCK, NEAR QUEENS PARK, LONDON, WHERE THE VIRGIN MADONNA HAS APPEARED TO HER, AND WHERE CHRIST HIMSELF CAME IN A VISION AND ORDERED HER TO BE HIS AMBASSADOR AND MISSIONARY IN ENGLAND. SISTER MARIE HAS BEEN DELIVERING COPIES OF GOD'S WRITTEN ULTIMATUM RECORDED IN A MANUSCRIPT, TO ALL THE MAJOR EMBASSIES IN LONDON, RUSSIA, FRANCE, ITALY, SPAIN, GERMANY, POLAND AND SAUDI ARABIA ETC. ON 29TH NOVEMBER, 1990 TWO YEARS AGO, SISTER MARIE GABRIEL WENT TO THE RUSSIAN EMBASSY TO PERSONALLY HAND IN HER WRITTEN PREDICTION THAT HALEY'S COMET WOULD UNDERGO A MASSIVE COSMIC ERUPTION. THIS AMAZING FORECAST OF HERS CAME TRUE TWO MONTHS LATER WHEN ASTRONOMERS SAW HALEY EXPLODE ON 12 FEBRUARY 1991, EXACTLY AS SISTER MARIE HAD PREDICTED TO THE RUSSIAN EMBASSY. THE SOVIET AMBASSADOR'S SECRETARY SENT HER PREDICTIONS ABOUT HALEY'S COMET, TO THE SOVIET ACADEMY OF SCIENCES IN MOSCOW ON DECEMBER 1990. WHEN THE COMET ERUPTION CAME TRUE, IT PROVED SISTER MARIE CAN ACCURATELY FORECAST COSMIC EVENTS WELL AHEAD OF ALL ASTRONOMERS AND IN ADVANCE OF THE MOST POWERFUL TELESCOPES.</p> </blockquote> <p>In order to pay for the production of this book and the newspaper advertisements, it would seem that some mystery benefactor or benefactors gave her money which must have amounted to thousands of pounds. Sister Marie herself claimed to live in poverty, at one point giving vent to a lengthy complaint against the "sadists" of the DHSS (the Department of Health and Social Security, responsible for state benefits).</p> <p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/images/oddbooks/madonna2.jpg"><img alt="LAW AND ORDER" data-entity-type="file" data-entity-uuid="e965240c-8eb8-45a8-aa6d-32ccf5c2f52b" height="525" src="/sites/default/files/files/images/oddbooks/madonna2.jpg" width="500" /></a></p> <p>Of course no volume of this nature would be complete without some terrible poetry, and you'd be disappointed if I failed to pass it on. So here's "PLEASE SAVE OUR WORLD", which I presume is meant to be read as a rap as it's addressed to the "kids":</p> <blockquote> <p>LISTEN BOYS, LISTEN GIRLS WE'VE JUST GOT TO SAVE OUR WORLD, IT NEEDS HELP, IT NEEDS A CURE, IT NEEDS SALVATION AND THAT'S FOR SURE. WHAT ARE WE ALL GOING TO DO? LISTEN KIDS I'M TALKING TO YOU. WE'VE GOT TO SAVE OUR PLANET TODAY, WE'VE GOT TO HELP IT RIGHT AWAY. LET'S STOP ALL THE GREED, LET'S STOP ALL THE CRIME, LET'S STOP THE WARS WHILE THERE IS TIME. LET'S STOP ALL THE HUNGER, LET'S STOP ALL THE PAIN, LET'S STOP ALL THE TEARS THAT FALL LIKE RAIN. LET'S STOP ALL THE CHEATING, LET'S STOP ALL THE LYING, LET'S STOP ALL THE FIGHTING AND ALL THE CRYING. LET'S SAVE THE RAIN FORESTS, LET'S SAVE OUR FRESH AIR, LET'S SAVE THE OZONE LAYER THINNING UP THERE. LET'S STOP THE POLLUTION, FROM MILLIONS OF CARS, LET'S GIVE UP ALL SMOKING, THAT FILLS LUNGS WITH TAR. LET'S SAVE OUR OCEANS, RIVERS AND SEAS, LET'S SAVE OUR COUNTRYSIDE, MEADOWS AND TREES, STOP CRUELTY TO ANIMALS, STOP HUNTING FOR FURS. STOP ANIMAL EXPERIMENTS, WHICH POISON AND HURT. LET'S SAVE ALL THE ELEPHANTS, LET'S STOP IVORY'S TRADE, LET'S SAVE THE DOLPHINS AND THE WHALES GOD HAS MADE. LISTEN BOYS, LISTEN GIRLS WE'VE JUST GOT TO SAVE OUR WORLD, IT NEEDS HELP, IT NEEDS A CURE, IT NEEDS SALVATION AND THAT'S FOR SURE. WHAT ARE WE ALL GOING TO DO? LISTEN KIDS I'M TALKING TO YOU. WE'VE GOT TO SAVE OUR PLANET TODAY, WE'VE GOT TO HELP IT RIGHT AWAY. EARTH NEEDS LOVE, O LISTEN PLEASE, OUR WORLD NEEDS MERCY, TRUTH AND PEACE.</p> </blockquote> <p>I just hope the kids are prepared to listen, unlike Andrew Lloyd-Webber who mean-spiritedly would not even accept her generous gift of a gold-framed picture of Jesus Christ Superstar. Like so many others, he failed to recognise the strange woman on his doorstep as a holy messenger from God. Poor chap, he probably thought she was some kind of nut.</p> <p> <a href="/sites/default/files/files/images/oddbooks/madonna6.jpg"><img alt="BUGGED BY MI5" data-entity-type="file" data-entity-uuid="d96137f4-8342-4c6d-bab5-7229a9167ee4" height="618" src="/sites/default/files/files/images/oddbooks/madonna6.jpg" width="500" /></a></p> <p> </p></div> <section class="comment-list"> <h2>Comments</h2> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header"> Leave a comment </div> <div class="card-body"> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderForm" arguments="0=node&amp;1=951&amp;2=comment_node_oddbook&amp;3=comment_node_oddbook" token="LkibmYlNEtQI-fgUBtWN3rplRdnGGtpkSbVD1chbw8I"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1507" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1315197493"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous (not verified)</span> on 05 Sep 2011 - 06:38</span> <a href="/comment/1507#comment-1507" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1507#comment-1507" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Interesting. I wonder if</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">Interesting. I wonder if Sister Marie is related to Alan Bennett's Lady in the Van?</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1507&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="jAlXcQ8ac_p72eXYb2XYhEhWJUyxQeO3fdJ6mvd9vhM"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1511" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1315749945"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">pseudonym (not verified)</span> on 11 Sep 2011 - 16:05</span> <a href="/comment/1511#comment-1511" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1511#comment-1511" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">85% is so weirdly specific</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">85% is so weirdly specific and yet vague on what sort of crime, maybe this should be a question on the sociopath test but it seems to me the quickest way to bring about a sudden drop like that is to just legalize everything except murder and rape, which suggest that god is a libertarian</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1511&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="dAKR-RAoH_UGtmpC0NdHJLNE8LiMl-aU-avm5mBpBi0"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1628" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1326412371"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous (not verified)</span> on 13 Jan 2012 - 00:52</span> <a href="/comment/1628#comment-1628" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1628#comment-1628" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">THIS WOMAN SYLVIA RICHMOND</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">THIS WOMAN SYLVIA RICHMOND ,SOFIA RICHMOND IS AN EVIL WOMAN AND HAS STOLEN MY THREE CATS .......SHE LOCKS THEM UP AND CALLS THEM HER STRAY CATS......DO YOU KNOW HOW I CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ON HER SHE IS CURRENTLY LIVING IN GLYNNEATH SOUTH WALES AND AM TRYING MY BEST TO EXPOSE HER .....SHE IS LIVING IN A HOUSE THAT SHE PAID CASH FOR AND HAS NO FRIENDS AND DOESNT SPEND A PENNY ON THE UPKEEP OF HER PROPERTY</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1628&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="6TZZ69sAh_u-wEkVkULxF_aqGEZGPazZINOIbmGv3og"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1629" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1326412373"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous (not verified)</span> on 13 Jan 2012 - 00:52</span> <a href="/comment/1629#comment-1629" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1629#comment-1629" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">THIS WOMAN SYLVIA RICHMOND</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">THIS WOMAN SYLVIA RICHMOND ,SOFIA RICHMOND IS AN EVIL WOMAN AND HAS STOLEN MY THREE CATS .......SHE LOCKS THEM UP AND CALLS THEM HER STRAY CATS......DO YOU KNOW HOW I CAN GET MORE INFORMATION ON HER SHE IS CURRENTLY LIVING IN GLYNNEATH SOUTH WALES AND AM TRYING MY BEST TO EXPOSE HER .....SHE IS LIVING IN A HOUSE THAT SHE PAID CASH FOR AND HAS NO FRIENDS AND DOESNT SPEND A PENNY ON THE UPKEEP OF HER PROPERTY</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1629&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="EfX5IzVNmody2gx_QMfsMQf-F1gyJKOe4vPY9HYdWRI"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-1765" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1350594789"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">jack gielen (not verified)</span> on 18 Oct 2012 - 23:13</span> <a href="/comment/1765#comment-1765" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/1765#comment-1765" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I had a vision of the Madonna</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I had a vision of the Madonna Light woman at marae marie on the way to Tauramanui.Since then there have been all kinds of coincidences in my life.The weather has gone all wrong, the world is upside down.I often wonder what the fourth sign of Fatima was.Was it the world and humanity destoying itself.Yours sincerely Jack Gielen</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=1765&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="xrOuBh6HxtPU3nh9PIqEpDLea7GK7C90rNr6Ss2Acto"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/1629#comment-1629" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">THIS WOMAN SYLVIA RICHMOND</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-47340" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1474675428"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Iain Bo Bo beans (not verified)</span> on 24 Sep 2016 - 02:03</span> <a href="/comment/47340#comment-47340" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/47340#comment-47340" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I have had this book for many</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I have had this book for many years - it is one of my prized possessions. I think that graphically its surrealism is unparalleled. It is also a real opening-up of a really - well - unusual mind. It would be good for teaching students how to empathise with people who have a markedly different world-view. I keep rather disconcerting feeling when I read &#039;Visions&#039; - I open this vast book often - that she might be right about everything she says; as she was about the massive cosmic eruption of Haley&#039;s comet. As the Soviet Academy of Sciences will surely testify. If you are lucky enough to find a copy of this - rare as hens&#039; teeth - definitely buy it - a unique classic.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=47340&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="FebgajyKnraqkIk-57lksAOj1iZjL13QpmYuCMblzOg"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-53750" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1513985981"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Loes Modderman (not verified)</span> on 23 Dec 2017 - 00:39</span> <a href="/comment/53750#comment-53750" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/53750#comment-53750" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I ordered the book, because I</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>I ordered the book, because I love books from weird people. It&#039;s heavy, and her consequent use of capitals instead of normal print, her absolute belief in her own importance and the truth of her mission reminds me of the schizophrenic people I knew in the line of my work when they were the victim of a psychosis. But what intrigued me most is her dolls head, which is not human, a mask, plastic probably, carefully held with her hand under her chin and a scarf to prevent it falling off. What&#039;s under the mask, I wonder. The book is a treasure, nevertheless, from a woman who has all the answers straight from God, Maria, Jesus and the rest of the catholic universe. It must be a complicated existence.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=53750&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="6Lcs7VO52QMoyE2LjZ8NLKFN3Vc0UvCtWZhZhvkn61Y"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-53764" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1514035851"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 23 Dec 2017 - 14:30</span> <a href="/comment/53764#comment-53764" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/53764#comment-53764" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Yes, I wondered about the</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Yes, I wondered about the face and I think you are right. I should redo the pictures on this page, I think.</p> <p>Cheers, Alfred</p></div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=53764&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="qYuZFWj2We5G3yKePdb8D1zcIrJnbd9Hd3vNlAyil6A"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/53750#comment-53750" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">I ordered the book, because I</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Loes Modderman (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> </div> </section> Sat, 02 May 2009 16:16:14 +0000 Alfred Armstrong 951 at http://oddbooks.com http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/supernatural-visions-madonna-1981-1991-london#comments The Animals and Birds Redeemed from Death http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/animals-and-birds-redeemed-death <span>The Animals and Birds Redeemed from Death</span> <span><span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span></span> <span>24 Aug 2008 - 19:36</span> <div class="oddbook__field-author d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Author(s)<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">A Carr</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-subtitle">Their Eternal Glory</div> <div class="oddbook__field-publisher d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Publisher<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">The Author, San Francisco</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-pubdate d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Edition / Year<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">1958</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-file-under d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> File under<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__items"> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/christianity" hreflang="en">Christianity</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/clerics" hreflang="en">clerics</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/spirits" hreflang="en">spirits</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/poetry" hreflang="en">poetry</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/dead-pets" hreflang="en">dead pets</a></span> </div> </div> <div class="oddbook__taxonomy-vocabulary-1 d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> In the section labelled<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/category/odd-books/religious-bent" hreflang="en">The Religious Bent</a></div> </div> <div class="oddbook__body"><p>Animal-lovers who are also Christians often find the Church doctrine that life after death is reserved for human beings an uncomfortable one. Surely in any Heaven worthy of the name little Snookums will be there, licking his celestial testicles in his transcendental basket?</p> <p>Such is the central idea of A Carr's little book; a heartfelt, though not altogether coherent, plea for the recognition of the rights of animals in this world as well as that beyond. While his or her argument may sometimes lack logic, who could fail to be swayed by the sentiment of lines such as these?</p> <blockquote> <p>THE LITTLE BLACK DOG</p> <p>I wonder if Christ had a little black dog All curly and woolly like mine; With two long silk ears and a nose cold and wet, And two eyes, brown and tender, that shine. I'm sure if He had, that that little black dog Knew right from the first, He was God, That he needed no proof that Christ was divine, And just worshiped the ground where He trod. I'm afraid that He hadn't, because I have read How He prayed in the garden, alone; For all of His friends and disciples had fled— Even Peter, the one called a stone. And, Oh, I am sure that that little black dog, With a heart so tender and warm, Would never have left Him to suffer alone, But, creeping right under His arm, Would have licked the dear fingers, in agony clasped, And, counting all favors but loss, When they took Him away, would have trotted behind And followed Him quite to the cross.</p> </blockquote> <p>It's a thought, isn't it? Though, actually, for all we know Jesus might have been more of a cat person, or even a frog fancier. Perhaps He kept a solitary bee. Unlikely as it seems, there is insubstantial evidence to suggest the phrase "fisher of men" may have been a mediaeval mistranslation of "man of fish", meaning that He owned an aquarium.</p> <p>As well as speculating on the nature of Jesus's relationship with His Hypothetical Hound and the status of animals in the afterlife, Carr addresses the equally controversial topics of vivisection (bad) and vegetarianism (good). Throughout she/he maintains a consistent standard of argument, dragging in material from whatever source supports his/her position, including tales of the Buddha, Native American myths, and the Apocrypha. It does not seem to have occurred to him/her that citing such an admixture of sources, ones that disagree with one another on many fundamentals, hardly makes for a compelling case.</p> <p>However, I have to say that I do agree with her/him on the central issue: that if after death we persist then so do all the little fluffy bunnies, parasitical worms, poisonous snakes and cute koala bears; giant squid, sardines, penguins, parakeets, boobies and buzzards; wasps, whippets, woodpeckers and whitebait.</p> <p>What, though, of the other kingdoms of nature? What of mushrooms, maples, ferns, algae and lichen? Are they to be cast out of God's kingdom? May not the lowly hepatitis B virus or E. coli bacterium nestle in Abraham's bosom? Cannot their tiny voices, unheard in this world, at last be lifted in His eternal praise? I tell you, if it's not open to all I shan't be going: I feel so strongly about it, I'll just stay right here instead.</p></div> <section class="comment-list"> <h2>Comments</h2> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header"> Leave a comment </div> <div class="card-body"> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderForm" arguments="0=node&amp;1=940&amp;2=comment_node_oddbook&amp;3=comment_node_oddbook" token="rKoU-PacR0YWexcJ2NAHgAhfSfeEtn_t_RDzRqzEvmE"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-68" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1219676648"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Anonymous (not verified)</span> on 25 Aug 2008 - 17:04</span> <a href="/comment/68#comment-68" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/68#comment-68" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Hmmm. In the days of Darwin</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">Hmmm. In the days of Darwin being a new thing, wasn't the playtypus thought by many Christians to have been proof positive that God had a sense of humour? 'Licked the dear fingers, in agony clasped' will, I fear, stay with me for a long time... Ian Kearey</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=68&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="RopRX_vu7b0lElQpE0uCTJeuIbqYB6S1jYEYLfNi2c8"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> </section> Sun, 24 Aug 2008 17:36:43 +0000 Alfred Armstrong 940 at http://oddbooks.com http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/animals-and-birds-redeemed-death#comments How the Devil Spread AIDS to Woods Valley http://oddbooks.com/oddbooks/how-devil-spread-aids-woods-valley <span>How the Devil Spread AIDS to Woods Valley</span> <span><span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span></span> <span>20 Apr 2008 - 14:21</span> <div class="oddbook__field-author d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Author(s)<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">Frank Aymer</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-publisher d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Publisher<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">Vantage Press</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-pubdate d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> Edition / Year<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item">1992</div> </div> <div class="oddbook__field-file-under d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> File under<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__items"> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/satan" hreflang="en">Satan</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/christianity" hreflang="en">Christianity</a></span> <span class="field__item"><a href="/category/file-under/diseases" hreflang="en">diseases</a></span> </div> </div> <div class="oddbook__taxonomy-vocabulary-1 d-flex"> <div class="field__label font-weight-bold"> In the section labelled<span class="field__label__suffix mr-1">:</span> </div> <div class="field__item"><a href="/category/odd-books/religious-bent" hreflang="en">The Religious Bent</a></div> </div> <div class="oddbook__body"><p><a href="/sites/default/files/files/images/oddbooks/devil-spread-aids.jpg"><img alt="How the Devil Spread AIDS to Woods Valley" data-entity-type="file" data-entity-uuid="e43e2e82-ddc3-4693-99fa-b02f534d7861" height="273" src="/sites/default/files/files/images/oddbooks/devil-spread-aids.jpg" width="181" class="align-right" /></a>It was not always so, but nowadays it is more than respectable to appreciate Naive Art. Good prices are paid for works by the untrained and clumsy; and by the trained and deft who can mimic the style. There has been no parallel development in writing as yet, but when the day comes that Naive Literature is finally given its due recognition this book will no doubt achieve a similar level of acclaim for its perfect artlessness.</p> <p>It's a simple fable, told in a mere 34 pages, and the story is just as the title implies: there's a place called Woods Valley where the Devil turns up and spreads AIDS. In case the reader might doubt author Frank Aymer's knowledge of the ways of the horned one, he justifies himself in an introductory passage:</p> <blockquote> <p>In this sort of a case about Satan, some people usually ask, "Where exactly does information about him come from?" Yes, a lot of people wonder if anyone has ever seen the Devil face-to-face or if he can be located. The answer is no. Therefore, the dramatic parts in this story about Satan are imaginary. They are, however, similar to those usually featured in Sunday school classes and other stories that describe him as I do in this book. Many authors wrote about him. Nevertheless, the doings of human beings are divided into two groups: Satan is the king of all bad works, whereas God is the one who controls the good things in life. God also hates every evil way, because evil ways cause mankind lots of real troubles. So please feel free to read and understand the amount of evil that can harm us if we get involved in bad practices. It's good fun and enlightening. You'll really like it.</p> </blockquote> <p>Though the tone of this passage - which is consistently maintained throughout the book - suggests Aymer's book might be aimed at children, there's no other evidence of that being his actual intent. He later refers to homosexual acts and prostitution, and he uses the word "semen" without explaining its meaning, so familarity with the facts of life are assumed.</p> <p>Woods Valley is a quiet rural area - Aymer is careful to explain that it is "different from the city" - with a mainly god-fearing population. Unfortunately, "some of the inhabitants did not know a lot of things about the Bible". This presents Satan with his opportunity, which he takes with typical cunning:</p> <blockquote> <p>Another thing he did was to lie. He told the folks who agreed with him that he was really a very great king from a faraway country. He pretended to be really interested in helping people. That was not the only lie he told the folks. He also told them that his name was King Seed. This meant that he was capable of planting one of his king seeds into any person, and that seed would grow into that person and make him a king also. Satan did all of this very skillfully. He convinced many people. Now the people he associated with in this manner did not even think about finding out more about this person who called himself King Seed. Neither did they check where exactly he had lived last. They were so anxious to become kings that they got hooked on King Seed's instructions.</p> </blockquote> <p>The precise method that King Seed used in planting his seeds is not described, but the results are not good. People start acting slutty, taking drugs and leaving rubbish about. Yet this is not enough for Satan, who sits down at his "evil desk" (it even has an "evil telephone") and plots further destruction. The instruments of his will are his henchman Kembaaley and the Haldean family, in particular their daughter Rudelphia:</p> <blockquote> <p>Rudelphia was only nineteen years old and was highly engaged in the wildest sexual acts. No one could have controlled her habits, and she mixed with boys of any age and size, plus elder men. She also used hard drugs. Rudelphia was getting a bit of satisfaction from her habits, so evil Kembaaley, who was actually King Seed's outright servant, had given her AIDS. Kembaaley envied her, although she was a member of their evil ways. Only Kembaaley had known about the deadly disease. Rudelphia could not have known nor her parents. The people she had sexual intercourse with did not know about that either, and they did not concern themselves about catching diseases, etc. Therefore, she lived her usual life. No doubt the disease was getting out of control in Lastford City — the place where the Haldean family came from.</p> </blockquote> <p>AIDS spreads through Woods Valley, and people start dying, including "many witch doctors" and "two of the undertakers" which makes life busy for the rest of them. Fortunately a few good citizens are unsurprisingly "concerned about the happening" as Aymer puts it, and they call in the experts, who go to work and quickly find the cause. The infected people are quarantined and a system of health education is put in place, with excellent results:</p> <blockquote> <p>After seven good years of constant educational programmes about the prevention of AIDS, Woods Valley returned to being a village that was under control. It was similar to the way it was before King Seed deceived the citizens.</p> <p>This made King Seed confused. He lost patience and he got disturbed beyond that. His torment was worse than a fish that is exposed to the fresh air. Every nerve cell in his body was completely shattered.</p> <p>Just imagine! Kembaaley was King Seed's best man in the destructive doings and King Seed called him and forced him to kill himself. These were Seed's exact words: "Kembaaley, that project was your life. It has failed and so have you too. So you are compelled to kill yourself right now." Kembaaley had to do it. But that did not satisfy King Seed. He turned his envy against the researchers and professors. He wanted to get rid of them—he hated mankind's works as well. King Seed's temper and anger burst inside of himself, but it was too late. Kembaaley was not alive. So his conscience actually tore itself to pieces. King Seed had failed and he felt corrupted. So he arose and moved out of Woods Valley. All he said to himself bitterly was, "I'll return. I'll return and when I do, I am going to make it worse." He was really hurt and he meant it.</p> </blockquote> <p>Thus Aymer's story comes to an end, abruptly. I wonder if he intended to hint at a possible sequel? I can't find a record of any further works, but his dust jacket biography says:</p> <blockquote> <p>Frank Aymer, being in the field of freelance journalism after completing a course from the International Correspondence School of London, does wish to succeed with this worthwhile venture.</p> </blockquote> <p>Perhaps he's been too busy as a journalist to write more fiction. What a loss to the field!</p> <p> </p></div> <section class="comment-list"> <h2>Comments</h2> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header"> Leave a comment </div> <div class="card-body"> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderForm" arguments="0=node&amp;1=933&amp;2=comment_node_oddbook&amp;3=comment_node_oddbook" token="81KaXgHtZAK5b7j4W6gXZuntX61rP2H1SUSr8ucDs-Y"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <article data-comment-user-id="25" id="comment-43" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1209372562"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/francois-tremblay" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Francois Tremblay</span> on 28 Apr 2008 - 10:49</span> <a href="/comment/43#comment-43" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/43#comment-43" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Your review was good fun and enlightening!</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body">"The precise method that King Seed used in planting his seeds is not described" Maybe because he was too squirmish to write about anal sex! So was it good fun and enlightening? If so, about what? ;)</div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=43&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="CR7NS3Mm8pfJnxQowloknny2AbUJrdluHZ9dv0CayaY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-35859" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1428781250"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Frank (not verified)</span> on 11 Apr 2015 - 21:40</span> <a href="/comment/35859#comment-35859" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/35859#comment-35859" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">You are free to write about</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>You are free to write about what topic you would like to.<br /> The book is already written.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=35859&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="Uva3sonesyfw9hDFUKPcu_IzJueXKx5kPb45VDabPlk"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/43#comment-43" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Your review was good fun and enlightening!</a> by <span lang="" about="/users/francois-tremblay" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Francois Tremblay</span></p> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="1" id="comment-35867" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1428789792"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span> on 12 Apr 2015 - 00:03</span> <a href="/comment/35867#comment-35867" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/35867#comment-35867" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">At last we hear from the</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>At last we hear from the author. How do, Frank?</p></div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=35867&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="R-REg4Zh0EoU04bamv_Va48VNfWmIUvwehM4z00yPKQ"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/35859#comment-35859" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">You are free to write about</a> by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Frank (not verified)</span></p> </footer> </article> <div class="indented"><article data-comment-user-id="0" id="comment-55303" class="js-comment mb-4"> <mark class="hidden" data-comment-timestamp="1533974192"></mark> <div class="row"> <div class="col-md-10"> <div class="card"> <div class="card-header d-flex justify-content-between"> <span>Submitted by <span lang="" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">FrancoisTremblay (not verified)</span> on 11 Aug 2018 - 09:56</span> <a href="/comment/55303#comment-55303" hreflang="und">Permalink</a> </div> <div class="card-body"> <h3 class="visually-hidden"><a href="/comment/55303#comment-55303" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">Wow, I didn&#039;t see this back</a></h3> <div class="comment-node-oddbook__comment-body"><p>Wow, I didn&#039;t see this back in 2015. Sorry I missed it. I doubt this is the real author though, but the bad grammar checks out.</p> </div> <drupal-render-placeholder callback="comment.lazy_builders:renderLinks" arguments="0=55303&amp;1=default&amp;2=und&amp;3=" token="ZGzNhk1DnPkXRc4WjyIL2dYSPgPDSZSYt--UN8OMriY"></drupal-render-placeholder> </div> </div> </div> </div> <footer> <p class="visually-hidden">In reply to <a href="/comment/35867#comment-35867" class="permalink" rel="bookmark" hreflang="und">At last we hear from the</a> by <span lang="" about="/users/alfred-armstrong" typeof="schema:Person" property="schema:name" datatype="">Alfred Armstrong</span></p> </footer> </article> </div></div></div> </section> Sun, 20 Apr 2008 12:21:23 +0000 Alfred Armstrong 933 at http://oddbooks.com